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NiteStryker

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#1 9 years ago

My wife and I were having a discussion about this and Im bringing it to you all.

Im asking why the hell I should tip people. Waiters, pizza deliveryman, barber, etc. They are being paid to do that job, why am I expected to give them extra money? (Espically those starbucks bitches....I'd understand tipping someone who did something, but not someone who just wrote my name on a cup, then poured liquid in it, thats not rocket science and its not a mixed drink so it doesnt take skill).

My wife says its because their job wage is low because they will get tips to compensate. Now why the hell is the job relying on other peoples generosity then as payment?




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#2 9 years ago

Well beggars do that and they earn quite a fortune...




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#3 9 years ago

Here in the UK, the tipping culture isnt like the USA (where it seem unofficially manditory and people stand there blank staring waiting for tip). Here is pureully optional and given to someone who gives exceedingly good service and is not miserable! standardised or below average usually get nothing. Why dont you live in Iran or sommet, im sure there, giving tips is considered some kind of gambling there and they get outraged or something.




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#4 9 years ago

NiteStryker;4927615My wife and I were having a discussion about this and Im bringing it to you all.

Im asking why the hell I should tip people. Waiters, pizza deliveryman, barber, etc. They are being paid to do that job, why am I expected to give them extra money? (Espically those starbucks bitches....I'd understand tipping someone who did something, but not someone who just wrote my name on a cup, then poured liquid in it, thats not rocket science and its not a mixed drink so it doesnt take skill).

My wife says its because their job wage is low because they will get tips to compensate. Now why the hell is the job relying on other peoples generosity then as payment?

Your wife is right, the wages are designed so that the tips make up for the low wages. Really if you're going to complain about tipping then just don't tip, or move to Japan where they simply factor it into the bill.

Really though tipping is an ingenious concept, because it (in theory) rewards the employees who do the best work and treat the customers best, and leaves the ones just there to pick up a check with just that, a small check for their labor. Survival of the friendliest, really.




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#5 9 years ago

The restaurant service industry is built around tipping. Waiters earn 2.13 an hour, usd. The remaining wage is built on service. Standard tipping rate is 20% for good service. The general consensus is , "if you can't afford to tip properly, don't go out to eat". I condone this way of thinking. many aervers go out of their way to give a pleasant dining experience & deserve a good tip. Delivery drivers also get paid below average wages & have to spend their own money on gasoline to provide YOU the consumer a product at your door. It is obscene not to reward that kind of service. Baristas like the workers at Coffee shops actually get paid the most out of all of the service people.




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#6 9 years ago

Waiters, delivery drivers, and similar jobs actually make well below minimum wage. Last time I checked, waiters made $3 and some change per hour, well below the minimum wage of $7. Employers can do this by charging a "tip credit" against these employees, because it is just assumed that the employees will more than make up for the difference in tips.

As a pizza delivery driver, I make $6 an hour, even though national minimum wage is $7 an hour, because it's a tipped job.

EDIT - fuck you Chocu1a, you ninja'd me. =p




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#7 9 years ago

NiteStryker;4927615My wife and I were having a discussion about this and Im bringing it to you all.

Im asking why the hell I should tip people. Waiters, pizza deliveryman, barber, etc. They are being paid to do that job, why am I expected to give them extra money? (Espically those starbucks bitches....I'd understand tipping someone who did something, but not someone who just wrote my name on a cup, then poured liquid in it, thats not rocket science and its not a mixed drink so it doesnt take skill).

My wife says its because their job wage is low because they will get tips to compensate. Now why the hell is the job relying on other peoples generosity then as payment?

FYI, most restaurants are allowed to underpay (pay below minimum wage) because they are expected to be compensated with gratuity.

On a more personal note, I use tipping as a way of rewarding excellent service. If that person taking my order gets it right with a kind face, they get a nice tip. If they act like some 16 year old brat in mcdonalds who can't even get an order right when they are symbols on a keypad, then they don't get a tip or a smaller one.

As for starbucks and other places like that.. I only really see a need to tip them if they're overwhelmed with customers that the poor person doing that simple task is trying to hear 8 orders at once and get them all correct to the right people in a timely fashion. That guy/gal deserves a little extra for the ability to do that.


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#8 9 years ago

In Germany tipping is customary in restaurants where you have a waiter serving you food. The tips are much lower than what is common in the US though. There isn't really a guideline for tipping either, some people don't do it at all, some just round up to avoid annoying small change. Then again waiters don't receive less than minimum wage here.

I usually give a tip but make the amount dependant on the quality of the service. If the service is very bad then they don't get a tip, of course, but that rarely happens to me.




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#9 9 years ago

You're married? Wow. What's the legal age there?




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#10 9 years ago

In the UK as I believe already said, Tipping isn't mandatory, you tip someone for good service, for example if the waiter/ress greets you with a smile on there face and is generally kind and helpful, then they get a tip for doing well, just like some jobs get bonuses for doing well over a set period of time.