Well, like it's been said before tipping is just a way making up for the generally low paycheck and rewarding good service.
My problem however, is with places that automatically charge you a tip. I think it's a little ridiculous - and completely defeats the purpose of a paycheck. If my waiter knows im going to give him 20% of my bill, he's not going to need a reason to try, and in fact it would make more sense for him to go off and find as many other clients as possible rather than stay with me and work on my whim.
Voice of joy and sunshine
26th May 2003
Tipping is something you do when someone goes above and beyond simply doing their job. When they're friendly, and get your order right and so on. If they're just the usual imcompetent moron then fuck 'em.
Nemmerle;4927776Tipping is something you do when someone goes above and beyond simply doing their job. When they're friendly, and get your order right and so on. If they're just the usual imcompetent moron then fuck 'em.
Actually, leaving a below average tip is more insulting than no tip at all. So, if you want to teach a crappy server a lesson, just leave them some change.
NiteStryker;4927615] Im asking why the hell I should tip people. Waiters, pizza deliveryman, barber, etc. They are being paid to do that job, why am I expected to give them extra money?
Because most of them make minimum wage (or less) and require tips to keep their head financially above water. This is common knowledge and you're a bastard if you don't tip some kid toting around piping hot plates for peanuts.
Feel me. Do I feel pretty?
15th September 2004
When I broke down in Amarillo, my dutch friend actually tipped the tow truck driver, which is something I never think of doing (or most anyone else in the US). He said that tipping people makes them happier and thus a better worker, and they will also provide better service to you in the future.
In other words, it makes their day.
I assume that the dutch tip more people than we do, but that may also be something that he and his family just does.
I like Mr. Pink's ideas on tipping:
I will tip, if the waiter/waitress did a good job, or if the food is especially good. But it's not an automatic thing. I was at a resteraunt recently and paid on card. There was an option to "tip" using my credit card. Fuck that. If I'm going to leave a tip it's cash.
As for the minimum wage thing, Bill Hicks had something to say about that:
From about 0:50 onwards.
I agree with Mr Pink.
The waiters and waitresses here earn more than me anyway, and the ones in some other country who don't should really read up on the concept of a trade union...
Snipes With Artillery
22nd March 2005
NiteStryker;4927615My wife and I were having a discussion about this and Im bringing it to you all.
Im asking why the hell I should tip people. Waiters, pizza deliveryman, barber, etc. They are being paid to do that job, why am I expected to give them extra money? (Espically those starbucks bitches....I'd understand tipping someone who did something, but not someone who just wrote my name on a cup, then poured liquid in it, thats not rocket science and its not a mixed drink so it doesnt take skill).
My wife says its because their job wage is low because they will get tips to compensate. Now why the hell is the job relying on other peoples generosity then as payment?
Tipping is seen as a way to reward good service. However, people have become used to expecting underpaid staff to spit/piss in their food, and hope that by tipping they'll avoid this. If there is no service, then I leave no tip or just toss in the pennies/dimes/nickels(fast food, Starbucks, etc). If there's good service, I leave a good tip, excellent service=excellent tip, shitty service=no tip. Basically, it's a way of giving customer feedback, rewarding the good workers and not rewarding the bad.
I didn't make it!
They don't need a trade union. Though they make below minimum wage tipping generally more than makes up for it. Being a waiter or waitress is actually a pretty good job, depending upon the restaurant. They are certainly making more money than most people in this economy.
Voice of joy and sunshine
26th May 2003
Jeffro;4927862Because most of them make minimum wage (or less) and require tips to keep their head financially above water. This is common knowledge and you're a bastard if you don't tip some kid toting around piping hot plates for peanuts.
The only reason those jobs can pay so little is because people tip so much. Indeed that's the reason given in many areas for allowing their employers to bypass the minimum wage restriction. Although the proximal effect of your charity, and that's all it is really, is to improve the standard of life for the person near you the long term effect of all that giving is to ensure that those in charge can cut the wages back.
The rich get richer; the poor's guaranteed income is reduced, (what they know they're going to have to spend,) along therefore with their long-term ability to plan; and you get a little poorer. The only person who really benefits from this arrangement is the employer.
If you're interested in promoting long term social stability then join the volunteer branch of the emergency services, teach kids, do something that you know makes peoples' lives better. If on the other hand you're interested in not being a bastard, that has more to do with making you feel better, for a short amount of time, than promoting a good society.