U.S Marines vs U.S Airborne 135 replies

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#131 11 years ago
EO Violation;4170462Military tradition is something every armed force with any sort of history takes pride in, so it's something you should know if you're going to enlist.

I don't mind teaching it to future soldiers, I just think that it can be dangerous if it spreads throughout society.

If you want to join up because you think Black Hawk Down was a great movie, or if MoH:AA was your favorite game when you were younger, then you're making a mistake.

That's what I meant, mostly.

Joining the military is one way to serve your country. Will it make your country "better", probably not. It isn't for everyone, either. Some people were born to be doctors, teachers, lawyers... Well, maybe I shouldn't be listing lawyers among the people that can make a country better, but you get the idea. Other people just excel in the uniformed services, and are able to contribute greatly to society through military service.

Maybe, but whether they contribute or damage one's country depends on the decisions of a few politicians.




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#132 11 years ago

Frankly, the way I see it for officers is that they must obey the orders of the Commander in Chief unless it is unconstitutional. I think the law is supposed to see it that way also. Enlisted are kinda up shit creek when it comes to that, if I recall correctly. Enlisted don't swear an oath to the Constitution, do they?




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#133 11 years ago

indeed we do as a matter of fact. We take an oath for the constitution and all that but the powers that be also swear us to follow the orders of Officers and those above us (the president) as layed out by the UCMJ which is delightfully flexible when it comes to making a scapegoat. Thats why enlisted folks serve jail time for rule breaking and Officers get promoted and retired for it.




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#134 11 years ago

Ah, I somehow got the notion there were separate oaths.




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#135 11 years ago
Roaming East;4172061indeed we do as a matter of fact. We take an oath for the constitution and all that but the powers that be also swear us to follow the orders of Officers and those above us (the president) as layed out by the UCMJ which is delightfully flexible when it comes to making a scapegoat. Thats why enlisted folks serve jail time for rule breaking and Officers get promoted and retired for it.

Well, that's not always the case...

A senior non-com close to retirement could be retired early too. ;)

Fancypants, military tradition, what I'm talking about, is nothing harmful. An example being the Cavalry stetson, which is a replica of an 1870s campaign hat worn by the old cav troopers in the west. The point and purpose of these traditions is to remind today's soldiers of the past.

I entirely agree with you about politicians, though.




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#136 10 years ago
EO Violation;4168152Back on topic. Marines suck. Airborne is overrated. Join cav if you have big enough balls.

What is your experience serving IN either group? Or are you just a loud mouth? What the ol' blow hard cav motto? "If you ain't Cav, then you ain't s**t". So that technically means "If you are Cav, then you are s**t"...