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#1 10 years ago

[gvideo]5594056308806545107[/gvideo] Windows Vista did not steal ideas from Mac OS X!

LOL! watch and discuss what you think. And yes I hate Vista(but I also hate Mac, XP FOR THE WIN!)

ok I tried to use that embed code but it didnt work... someone else embed it in your post or tell me how.




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#2 10 years ago

I never really heard that many people complain Vista was just an OSX rip-off. But its really just an excuse for Apple fans to bash Vista. I don't hate Vista or hate OSX. I used both for a long time. I don't understand why PC vs. Mac people argue with eachother. If your not some die-hard apple fan you'd probably enjoy reading this article: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't...




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#3 10 years ago

For Google videos: [noparse][gvideo]Link[/gvideo][/noparse]

For Youtube videos: [noparse][/noparse]

As for MS stealing from Apple, I'd consider it a lack of creativity at the worst. Since I'm pretty sure they didn't steal the actual coding or visual theme, there was nothing unlawful about it.

[edit]The noparse code doesn't seem to be working, but it is [gvideo][\gvideo][/edit]




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#4 10 years ago

Linux had such and much better effects for ages now, Beryl. Microsoft rips off anyone they think it's worth ripping. There has never been anything original about MS, which is why there are so many better systems around than Vista, but since MS holds the worldwide market, most software is made just for them. I had a chance to work with OSX. And I can say it's something Vista could never be. It's fast regardless of how many things you have opened in the background, for one. Before Vista had its nifty 3D effect, Linux has had it for a couple of years, at least. Sure, it was hard to use, but why is that? Because major companies couldn't release their graphics drivers to public to be adapted for Linux. Microsoft owns us, it seems.




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#5 10 years ago
SteVen;4194527I never really heard that many people complain Vista was just an OSX rip-off. But its really just an excuse for Apple fans to bash Vista. I don't hate Vista or hate OSX. I used both for a long time. I don't understand why PC vs. Mac people argue with eachother. If your not some die-hard apple fan you'd probably enjoy reading this article: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't...

OMFG LOL.. That is the funniest page I have ever seen. Thank you for posting that... as it is so true.

Also, I love how that video didn't prove anything except that they did not copy the code over exactly. But does it really matter? Apple has stolen so much shit from other people that it's just coming back to them.




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#6 10 years ago

I've yet to spot a single shred of originality in any Microsoft operating system.

Hell, the entire premise for a Window-oriented user interface was nicked from Xerox (by Apple, ironically, and integrated into their first operating system release) in the first place. A couple of years later, Microsoft released a "cutting edge" operating system, which was imaginatively named 'Windows'.

Coincidence? Surely you jest!




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#7 10 years ago

seen that video a while back but today all the operating systems are becoming pretty much the same and you can find the same features in most of them now so course there is going to be controversy but soon people will be saying the same about cars. oh no ford have stolen the steering wheel design of toyota or something else of stupid nature. get over it its business and its not fair and equal playing field




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#8 10 years ago

Yes, Microsoft [COLOR=Red]DID[/COLOR] steal ideas from OSX! That video PROVES that Microsoft DID steal ideas!




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#9 10 years ago

Ok, first off, who gives a shit? I hope you know that the Windows OS is originally based off of the Mac OS; and BTW, Microsoft owns part of Apple, so I really don't think they "stole" ideas.

If this really even worth discussing, is it so damn important that people use other people's ideas? And unless the Mac OS source code is patented, it's not a problem. Frankly, I think it's sad that Microsoft did have to use some of the OSX utilities, it just shows how far Microsoft has to go to catch people's attention.




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#10 10 years ago

It's hardly as if having an expandable folder tree structure is Apple's idea, nor as if having an indexed search function was first seen in either OS. These ideas existed long before Microsoft and Apple came into being, and will exist long after they are gone. All they do is make use of them, knowing that we would do the same were we able. =p

[SIZE="1"]Nem would like to thank the ancient Greeks for the general structure of that.[/SIZE]

Alright so I ripped most of that speech right out of the Melian Dialogues and I did so for a reason. If you think that programmers and designers really make something completely new, indeed that any of us really come up with something new when we exercise creativity then you're sadly wrong. Everything has to start somewhere and the similarities in our stories across the globe even before the advent of mass media show how much of our supposed creativity is based on derivation.

The idea behind copyright is to encourage the prominence of good ideas by protecting to a certain extent an investment that people make in realising them so that we have storytellers and programmers etc. Essentially to allow people to create good derivatives and profit from them. But there are way too many general patents out there that do the opposite and stifle ideas and creativity, some moron even granted what amounts to a patent to having an arrow floating above your car to direct you in racing games (Patent# 6,200,138 go check it out yourself!) as if somehow we haven't been using the idea of arrows to direct attention for the last few thousand years or something.

So Windows Vista bears a rather uncanny resemblance to OSX. The ideas certainly didn't originate in OSX. There are many products that use arrows next to a folder tree structure and an integrated search function, the browser I'm using at the moment does much the same to organise bookmarks and mail and it even has integrated search. I'm not going to suggest that only that one browser company should be allowed to use arrows and searches in that way though, that's silly, the idea has been around for ages and it's high past time that it became available for anyone to use in the manner of our other collective intellectual properties, the stories that have been told the world over, the wheels on a car. People have rights to what the ‘create’ to a point, otherwise we’d never get anyone making anything, but some of these things are taken too generally and if enforced would simply stifle creativity with no justified benefit, this is past the point where it would be a good thing.




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