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Nemmerle Forum Mod

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#1 5 years ago

Interesting documentary.

This Is What Winning Looks Like | VICE United States

What did you all make of it? I've got -

Lots of people doing effectively nothing.

Low morale.

Ad-hoc training of Afghan army/police.

Lack of national identity.

Poor mobility.

Lack of intelligence.

Communication problems.




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#2 5 years ago

The Afghan army, for the most part, are not in a position to take over from the British / US etc. military and don't seem like they ever will be. Our troops from both sides of the pond have an uphill struggle and I don't see that a satisfactory outcome will arise.

There are targets to withdraw from Afghanistan and I doubt those targets will be met, ever. When we do withdraw things seem like they may degrade rapidly.

Low morale is bound to occur given the hopeless task that seems to bestow the men and women out there right now. The lack of intelligence, comms issues, etc. can all be overcome. But, the fact that the Afghan army and police are undertrained, and recruited from anyone who essentially needs something to do, does not an effective army make. They're undisciplined.

So basically yeah, it's messed up. But we've known this for years.


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#3 5 years ago

Ah I thought it would be a picture of me :p




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#4 5 years ago

Interesting documentary. I'm still not sure how much you can rely on the factuality of Vice, but from what I've seen so far they just seem to be good at finding uncomfortable stories. Strange that the US soldier is so open about the problems, wouldn't he get in trouble for that?