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Polska

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#51 15 years ago

For every counter program against Piracy, people will find a way to counter it.

It's a endless loop that won't stop I am afraid, until people themselves stop piracy ( which is unlikely to happen ).

I think the main reason people pirate is because we Humans like to have as much as possible, seeing as we only have a certain ammount of things to trade for something ( money ) we still want it all, thus we seek for alternative ways, which aren't fair.

There's always a lot of discussion about what is and what isn't allowed, as far as I know, you aren't allowed to make or keep a backup of a movie or videogame ( let alone share/spread or download it ), but you Are allowed ( atleast here in the Netherlands ) to make a backup copy of Music cd for yourself, however sharing/spreading that music cd copy isn't allowed.

So you are basicly allowed to make a copy of a cd you borrow from the liberary because it's for your own use. This means the Liberary is spreading it and is against the law but basicly there isn't much done against this.~

Programs like Limewire and ***** ( although they are abused ) are basicly for legal tranportation of files, such as a picture of yourself, but since this network is open to all sorts of files, people abuse it very quickly.




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#52 15 years ago

It all depends on the people using limewire. For example, you could argue that you downloaded a song, listened to it, then deleted it and went and bought the CD. But is this as morally wrong as downloading the song, then copying it to CD. Is it the downloading of the song that is wrong, or what you do with it afterwards. BTW polska, can I have my soul back please. thanks.




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#53 15 years ago
Griffin_NLI do not know if I misunderstand you, as I don't really know much about these things (what's Open Source?), but actually for the 'real' version you do have to pay. With that I mean Limewire PRO.

Open Source means that the program was released to the public, so that they could do "WHATEVER" they want with it. Except sell it (They can charge for a "Pro" version with support... *hint* *hint*).

People can go out and make their own versions of the program. The program MUST always have a Free version available. ALWAYS.

Any code is added in, or modified, it must be made available to the public. So if somebody adds a cool new HTML renderer, or somthing else to the code, it must be published for free. Then if somebody else wants to borrow it, and create a new free program, they must be allowed to do so.

So it is VERY rare that a "Pro" program will have anything to offer over a Free Open Source app, from the same group, besides support. Unless the Open Source intentionally cripple their own program. In which case somebody will create a better version for free.

Programmers, and Geeks can look at the code, and see if there are any viruses, etc... To make sure it is clean. They do that. NOTHING can get by for long. If anything bad is found, then a report will be made, and clean version started.

Take Mozilla Firefox. It runs on almost all OSes. The code is developed by Netscape, and hundreds of others. Nobody can put evil code into Firefox. Because anybody who knows anything can check for it, and remove it.

This original successes were the GNU software, and Linux. Now Open Source has become a popular way to "stick it to the man", or get back at Bill Gates.




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#54 15 years ago

I understand what the author is on about, the programs themselfs are just fine, and they can be used in whatever way you see fit. They can be abused in a way to violate the law but they can also be used in ways that are legal. Compare it with guns, guns can be used in a bad way but also in a good way. That doesn't make the gun itself or any other tool "good" or "bad".

myself would hesitate to ban such programs by law though I might do so, as with guns I recongize the fact that the tool itself is not to blame but the potential violation of the law might just be too big. A comparisment would have to be made between what effects a ban would have and keeping the programs themselfs (not the illegal copying and sharing of files!) legal after which I could draw my final conclusion.




Nusentinsaino Advanced Member

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#55 15 years ago
Großadmiral Dönitzmyself would hesitate to ban such programs by law though I might do so, as with guns I recongize the fact that the tool itself is not to blame but the potential violation of the law might just be too big.

Excellent comparison and point.




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#56 15 years ago

You dumbasses wouldnt get malware,spyware,viruses,trojans,worms in the first place if you had solid anti-virus/firewall software.




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#57 15 years ago
-SpArKs-I did a routine clean of malware on my pc before installing Limewire. Scanned again, 20+ adware and malware programs were found...

Yeah right...lol like what... In my line of work I use many maleware removal programs, and on my home pc, I have Spyware Doctor 3.5, Aluria AntiSpyware, Adware SE Pro, and Spybot Search & Destroy. Limewire (Free), and (Pro) didnt install a single spec of detectable malware/adware.




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#58 15 years ago

Großadmiral DönitzI understand what the author is on about, the programs themselfs are just fine, and they can be used in whatever way you see fit. They can be abused in a way to violate the law but they can also be used in ways that are legal. Compare it with guns, guns can be used in a bad way but also in a good way. That doesn't make the gun itself or any other tool "good" or "bad".

myself would hesitate to ban such programs by law though I might do so, as with guns I recongize the fact that the tool itself is not to blame but the potential violation of the law might just be too big. A comparisment would have to be made between what effects a ban would have and keeping the programs themselfs (not the illegal copying and sharing of files!) legal after which I could draw my final conclusion.

Funny, I wouldn't hesitate to ban those programs. (I bought into the RIAA speeches, before I found out about them).

However, I would be very hesitant to ban guns. Atleast all-together. I do believe in the right to bear arms. Now fully automatic weapons are a bit overkill...




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#59 15 years ago

the music industry got greedy and started overpricing music. so i think they created their own problem.




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#60 15 years ago

Yes, god forbid they charge you a nominal fee for providing you a service. Would you also expect businesses to start giving up their profits so you can save a buck?

If you don't believe in business, live on a deserted island where you are your own master and you won't have to pay for anything, or live with a nomadic tribe in Africa. I'm afraid here in the civilized world, though, the world turns on a buck. Nobody's going to give up their money for your comfort, especially not when they've earned it.