Wreckless speeder busted for recording trooper. 51 replies

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#1 8 years ago

This video by John Graber III has generated tons of buzz on YouTube with most everyone sympathizing with this guy as if he's some kind of living martyr, but quite honestly I think he's just another dime a dozen spoiled brat idiot with III tacked onto the end of his name indicating perhaps his dad was more interested in carrying on his name than raising his kid properly.

Normally I wouldn't bother with something like this but something struck a nerve after hearing about all the crap spewed in angst as if authority figures are always wrong and radicals always right. Clearly there's something strange going on when such people complain about national security measures, then stoop to breaking their own state laws due to a lack of knowledge or concern about those involving privacy.

I've heard all kinds of comments like the cop didn't identify himself, pointed a gun at him, was screaming at him, that the video wasn't illegal, etc, but none are actually true. The cop DID say he was state police & was assisted by another trooper in a marked car behind him that you can clearly see in the vid, never pointed the gun AT him, and merely told him to get off the motorcycle.

I have also read that this guy wasn't just casually speeding, but riding in excess of 100mph, weaving dangerously in and out of traffic, cutting off a passenger bus, and popping wheelies. Do you honestly think his helmet cam is for the now and then odd chance at defending himself with video proof, or could it be he likes to share thrill ride vids with his buddies?

Moreover, Maryland state law says it's illegal to intercept conversations without the consent of all parties involved. This guy got what he deserved and I applaud Maryland for using unmarked cars and special tactics to apprehend the highly wreckless and dangerous on their highways.

This guy needs to ditch the helmet cam and selfish, self righteous attitude, read up on the laws in his area, and learn some respect for the rights and safety of his fellow motorists. I see in his YouTube vid that he's advertising his GoPro HD helmet cam for sale on Craigslist though, so at least that indicates he's not 100% dense. My guess is his wealthy dad insisted on it to try and avoid any further embarassment.

YouTube - Motorcycle traffic violation - Cop pulls out gun

Alleged speeder charged with recording trooper - Baltimore Sun

I know, I know, many of you are going to say that the few states that prohibit civilian recordings without consent while allowing police recordings is hypocritical and unfair, esp in the case of a person being pulled over by mistake. I see cameras on cop vehicles as a very necessary part of police work, and I feel they should be allowed the authority to do so. It's a vital part of proving guilt in both those apprehended and occasionally those apprehending and the police are bonded and regulated to not abuse such privileges. It's not the same as if any civilian were allowed to record a conversation and post it wherever they like to defame someone unfairly, which is what I think is happening here.




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#2 8 years ago

[COLOR="Black"]The video doesn't show just how this guy was speeding, but the cop seems rather trigger happy.

As for recording people - I'd say it is ok to have a law that protects the privacy of civilians. In the case of police officers there should be an exception though. Too many screwups are accepted for this job which tempts people to abuse their power, so giving citizens the ability to fight back when being mistreated by securing evidence sounds like a very good idea to me. [/COLOR]




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#3 8 years ago

That policeman was a hell of a lot calmer than most American cops you see being filmed. Perhaps he shouldn't have brandished his gun but on the other hand it looked like the motorcyclist, backing up, was getting ready to do something stupid. Didn't point it at anyone, put it away when it was clear the situation didn't call for it. Unless there's something dreadful occurring outside of the time shown there's nothing wrong with it IMO.




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#4 8 years ago

How is he a marytr exactly? Oh no, the guy had a gun, I'm a martyr now! :[

MrFancypants;5368338[COLOR=black]As for recording people - I'd say it is ok to have a law that protects the privacy of civilians. In the case of police officers there should be an exception though. Too many screwups are accepted for this job which tempts people to abuse their power, so giving citizens the ability to fight back when being mistreated by securing evidence sounds like a very good idea to me.[/COLOR]

How is drawing your weapon considered a screw up? He never pointed the gun at him, and he put it away when the guy cooperated. Down where I grew up we had an African American teenager shot by a police officer, who had "mistakenly pulled out his handgun instead of his tazer." That is a screw up.




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#5 8 years ago
SupaCrazy;5368343 How is drawing your weapon considered a screw up? He never pointed the gun at him, and he put it away when the guy cooperated.

[COLOR=Black] I didn't talk about this particular cop but about cops in general. That cop just seemed trigger happy, but without knowing what happened beforehand it is difficult to say whether it was justified.[/COLOR]




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#6 8 years ago

True. He's sort of shooting himself in the foot, not including what had occurred before he was asked to pull over.




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#7 8 years ago

I think faaaar too many people are overly critical of police officers and grant too much freedom to lawbreakers.

Too many cops out there are good people doing a hard job and get shit on for it, and for no good reason.

Every now and then there is an incident where a cop screws up, and the media jumps on it like flies on shit, for really no good reason. But when the media screws up a story (Like the "racist" USDA worker), nobody cares.

And baiting cops like this, and only posting the part of the video where you are getting caught by the cops is a scumbag move. The cop probably pulled out his weapon because the driver was speeding like hell and he didnt want the driver to speed off. He didnt pull the trigger, and he put it away as quickly as he pulled it out. ***EDIT: And after watching it again, you see the motorcyclist start to back up when the cop gets out of the car. The cop may have thought he was going to try and run***

What the hell is the big deal? Are people going to gripe when police are engaged in a high speed chase for 3 counties, and when the criminal finally crashes and runs off and then the police taze him?

Damn man give the police a break. Dont monday-morning quarterback them when you are not in their situation. None of you can say "Well if I was in the situation I would have done x y and z", because you are full of shit.




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#8 8 years ago

Ah, I heard about this in the Norwegian newspapers too, interestingly enough with a big headline "Can get 16 years for filming police officer".

I don't really see why the gun was needed at all though as the guy was just speeding, did he have an AK-47 on his back or something and looked scary? Though it's America so I can't really make an arguments against trigger happy and gun loving people...




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#9 8 years ago
EX-Rumia;5368383I don't really see why the gun was needed at all though as the guy was just speeding, did he have an AK-47 on his back or something and looked scary? Though it's America so I can't really make an arguments against trigger happy and gun loving people...

We won't know until the "before" shots are released.




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#10 8 years ago

This is the second half of the video. I want the first half.