WTF! I hate my internet provider!!! 37 replies

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#31 8 years ago
D3matt;5629925The problem in the US compared to some of these other places is the vast areas we have to cover with our internet lines compared to other countries. Combine this with outdated infrastructure, and you can see why a lot of smaller "less wealthy" countries that entered into the internet age a few years later actually have better internet connections than we do here. I'd kill for a 40mb synchronous non-shared connection. That's insanity!

Nah, that's slow. Korea has lots of people living in tower blocks, so they have fibre delivered to the premises and are currently delivering 100MB/s. They are currently looking at upgrading their infrastructure to support 1000MB/s.

That's insanity.




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#32 8 years ago

Freyr;5629972Nah, that's slow. Korea has lots of people living in tower blocks, so they have fibre delivered to the premises and are currently delivering 100MB/s. They are currently looking at upgrading their infrastructure to support 1000MB/s.

That's insanity.

Yes... To the premises. That's shared for the whole apartment building I imagine, and 100mb shared with 100 other people doesn't go very far. Even in the US you can get 1000MB/s with a larger budget. Getting symetrical 50mb lines and offering up to 400mb for HOME SERVICE is crazy.

Then again I guess he didn't say anything about the cost of 50 and 400mb lines.

Really though, once fiber becomes commonplace in home use, speeds will start to increase and prices will drop. The theoretical throughput of fiber is incredible compared to other methods. 10Gigabit fiber is starting to show up in LAN and even WAN environments, I imagine the only limiting factor on doing this on a larger scale is the cost of the equipment.




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#33 8 years ago

I haven't been able to get a decent speed out of the local network since switching to W7. *glare*

I don't buy the cost argument for America, by the way. I've heard of people in really remote locations getting really good speeds before.

Certainly the infrastructure costs provide a disincentive. However, the primary problem seems to be the lack of selection pressures/difficulty getting planning permission. You find smaller countries where that's the case too - the UK springs to mind. And while they're ahead of the US, they're still lagging well behind much of continental Europe where distances are - in many cases - far larger....




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#34 8 years ago
D3matt;5629974Getting symetrical 50mb lines and offering up to 400mb for HOME SERVICE is crazy.

Pfft. I have 100 / 100 Mbps internet included in the rent just like water and electricity. No caps, of course, but obnoxious illegal use is punished. =p

Unfortunately this is only because I have the wonderful Funet (Finnish University and Research Network) as my internet provider. Even though I live in the fifth largest city in the country, the commercial market can only offer similar speeds in a number of addresses with fiber, and many places on the countryside are stuck with only one or very few internet providers and crappy connections. It's not quite as bad as in the US, the wired connections tend to give the promised speeds and we don't have caps on even wireless yet, but broadband on the countryside is neither cheap or fast, except in the few villages that opted to give up on commercial internet providers and built their own fiber networks.

Commercial internet providers only want to be where they can make the most profit, i.e. in the cities, so a free market doesn't work for internet access in a country with a population density of 16 people/km^2. Thus the national broadband strategy has since 2010 required everyone to have access to at least a reasonably priced 1 Mbps connection, which is to be increased to 100 Mbps by the end of 2015. 1 Mbps is rather laughable, but I applaud the government if the reasonably priced 100 Mbps to every cottage becomes reality. If our governments had been a bit less anti-technology we would by now have had a national fiber network to everyone as was suggested by experts years ago, but commercial networks are better than nothing.




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#35 8 years ago

D3matt;5629974Yes... To the premises. That's shared for the whole apartment building I imagine, and 100mb shared with 100 other people doesn't go very far. Even in the US you can get 1000MB/s with a larger budget. Getting symetrical 50mb lines and offering up to 400mb for HOME SERVICE is crazy.

Then again I guess he didn't say anything about the cost of 50 and 400mb lines.

$1000/m for 400/400.




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#36 8 years ago

Eh, maybe that's not so insane anymore, I'm pretty sure you get about the same here :P

Like I said earlier, rural areas that just recently got internet are getting better service because their infrastructure is newer. A lot of the time the initial line was put in for one customer with the money to swing a new line, then everybody else benefits from that new line, especially since there is probably fewer people on the same branch line. Like me out here, I don't get symmetrical connection, but when I moved in this place was pretty much just empty plots, and all we got was DSL. Cable company puts in brand new infrastructure, and we get a decent connection. The fiber lines haven't reached out this far yet, though. A still talk to a lot of people who have terrible connections too, even just a few cities away. It really depends on how long ago the lines were run and whether there's enough money in the area for it to be worth upgrading for the ISP.




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#37 8 years ago

Man I feel your pain. I hate when the internet goes down.




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#38 8 years ago

I have no idea what my parents are paying, but I get a guaranteed 20Mbps up/4Mbps down no cap.