i dunno if anyone posted this before me, but is it true they are making GTA san andreas adult only cuz some guy in the US shot anotehr gu on the street and when the police investigated, they found out he shot him because of the game :uhm:
No! I'm Spamacus!
17th June 2003
No, the AO rating was because of hidden "pornographic" content found in the original version. I don't think a company would ever change a rating due to someone blaming a crime on a game. If that were so almost every game out there would be AO.
Yeah and that blame the game is just so lame, like its a games fault that people are stupid...
I'm spending a year dead for tax reasons.
15th December 2002
jordan912003i dunno if anyone posted this before me, but is it true they are making GTA san andreas adult only cuz some guy in the US shot anotehr gu on the street and when the police investigated, they found out he shot him because of the game :uhm:
The game was made AO a long time ago, but not for the reasons you stated.
The game was made AO due to the "hot coffee scandal", code was left in the game that had a "sex mini-game" in it. This was re-enabled by a modder and caused a lot of uproar. The ESRB did not have this material declaired to them, and after much investigatio re-rated the game to AO.
The game was re-released as the "Special Edition" and now retaints its M rating.
So uh, dunno what your story is about but it sounds like you got it from a 13 year old who's run in from the street.
Danny King | Community Manager | GameFront.com
I have written this article a while ago, and I thought you poeple might be interested in reading it.
In the last few years video games, both of PC and for console, have changed drastically. No, I am not talking about the latest graphics and visuals, in which case I would have said evolved. Well, they did evolve, because if they didn’t, then we would still be playing Pac-Man, but the evolution is not in as much scrutiny as the changes that the industry has gone through. Video games are not just for children anymore. The average age of a video game player is now 29 years old. This number can only increase. Perhaps this is the reason why more and more Mature rated titles are out every year. Mature games with adult content have been in the market for a long time now, but they are not mainstream video games, and they cannot be bought everywhere. But the ‘M’ rated games in question are big budget titles, with renown developers lending their skills to the game Or maybe another reason for the release of more and more ‘M’ rated games could be because of the merging of video game and cinema. The gap between video games and movies is closer than ever. And that has not been such a good prospect on all counts, for the video game industry certainly. While some developers have strived to make video games more realistic visually, and for the characters to look more life-like, and the environment to more immersive to provide a cinematic experience. Some developers have taken this a step further by including graphic violence and sexual innuendo in video games. A fine example of such a game is Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. This game has raised a lot of concern among the many sections of the society, even without the release of the ‘Hot-Coffee’ mod. But after the release of the mod, the religious members were offended, the politicians had a field day criticizing the game and accusing the game for being responsible for all criminal activity, parents were horrified, and grand parents…well one of them went to court. Now, one cannot debate if it right on the part of the developers to make such games. In fact, such a debate would lead nowhere. After all, one has the right to express, and games are arguably a form of expression. Video games are not innocent forms of entertainment anymore. While there have always been people who were against video games for some reason or another, they were still innocent, in the sense that they were not supposed to have a negative impact on children, other than the fact that they spend too much time in front of the TV or a computer. But now, that’s not the only worry for parents anymore. After having read various reports in papers about how a man became a serial killer after playing Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas for a long time, and about the ‘Hot-Coffee’ mod, they are more concerned about the content of the games than ever before. But before going overboard about how the content has changed for the worse, let just take a moment to look at the matter a little more objectively. Sure enough video games are not just child’s play anymore, at least not all of them. But then, that’s the reason why the ESRB (Entertain Software Rating Board) even exists. So that consumers can make a responsible decision about the games they would purchase. There really is no excuse if the ESRB rating is overlooked before making a purchase. That’s precisely what happened when this 85-year-old grandmother decided to buy GTA: San Andreas, a Mature Rated (+17 years) game, for her grandson, who is only 14 years old. After having committed this mistake, she went a step further by suing the developers for falsely distributing games with sexual content to unsuspecting customers. This controversy started with the release of the ‘Hot-Coffee’ mod for GTA: San Andreas. But before they accuse the publisher for developing an obscene game, one has to understand what a Mod is. A Mod is a modification of certain sections of the game, be it characters, levels or weapons (in certain games). Gamers themselves by and large develop these Mods. A popular example of a Mod is Counter Strike for Half-Life. There are several mods available for several games all over the Internet. And almost no games were spared from having mods with lewd content. The popular Nude Raider comes to mind, and the patch for the game, Drakan Order of Flame, which would render Rynn naked. And it’s not very hard to find naked bots both for Unreal Tournament and Quake 3 Arena. But the makers of the game do not develop these. The gamers did it for their own delight. The source codes for most of the games are available online, the source code for Quake can be easily found. Which explains the abundance for Mods and arenas for the game, and its immense popularity. So, if a gamer decides to develop a mod for GTA: San Andreas, which would unlock sex scenes in the game, then should the developers be blamed for it? That does seem a bit unfair. After all, the gamers chose to develop it and play it, so if anyone has to be blamed, then it’s the gamers. Which too is a little unfair, because it’s not really against the law, and one could argue that in a free world they can chose to do whatever they want, and create any mod to their liking as long as no copyright laws are compromised. But as long as we are playing the blame game, lets at least blame the right people. There should be no reason why the politicians should be offended. After all, the gamers out of their own free will decided to develop the mod and play it. No one was compelled against his or her will to play it. So what exactly was the problem? Maybe people are too judgmental, or maybe they just can’t mind their own business. Just that there is just a little more to this than what meets the eye. The politicians step in because they have to win the opinion of the public. The religious people can never be satisfied with anything that goes on in this world, and for them freedom is a very trivial term, and sex is a crime worthy of the chair. The parents have a reason to be concerned, but not overly, all they have to do it keep a watch on the kids. The grandma, well, she decided to make some money in the process. Now that’s about all there is to it. And about games turning people into murders, that’s plain silly. There has been a case recently about a man who, after playing GTA: San Andreas for hours went on a rampage and killed a few police officers in the process, and said he would have killed a few had he not been apprehended. And also went on record saying that the reason he decided to commit this atrocity is because he was inspired by the game. There has been a similar horrendous act of violence in UK, when a man, strangled a child from crying because he didn’t want to be disturbed while he was playing True Crimes Streets of LA. This is a very disturbing development. There is no doubt about that. The matter should be very seriously dealt with. But this does not mean blaming the game for the irresponsible actions of a crazed person(s). Firstly, while the games did glorify violence, it certainly doesn’t mean that the gamers should be influenced by it. Next of all, it’s not a secret that these games contain excessive amount of violence. So if a weak-minded person played the game and became influenced by it, its only because they choose to be, and not because they were compelled. For that matter, when we are dealing with such people, anything and everything could be a liability. Anything from video games, to murder mysteries can influence them, and only because they chose to be. So is it correct to blame a video game for the actions of a person? I think not. Most normal people jut play the game and forget about it. In fact so do most passionate gamers. People who play games for 10 hours a day when they have time to do so, still manage to lead a normal life, because for them it’s a passion, nothing more, nothing less. But for a fanatic, who is relatively sensitive can be affected. It need not be video games alone. So if someone decides to emulate the actions of a video game character to harm others in real life, then the person and only the person is responsible for it. Not the video game. I rest my argument.
ohh so that's why, i heard the shooting thing from friend, so i had to ask, cuz it didn't seem really reasonable. thx guys
Wasn't on the news here :(.
Former - FileFront Network Administrator
10th September 2002
Why are people complaining about San Andreas becoming Adults only in the US, its been 18+ in the UK ever since it was released :) (i'm not trying to have a go at any one, just making a point :)) (Just like all of the GTA games). Saying that i'm sure that won't stop 14 year olds from playing the game though, since i've seen a lot of them post that they have been playing it on other forums.
Well here in the good ole USA when stupid people get in trouble they blame everyone but them selfs.. So when these "stupid" people get busted,, being stupid, they blame Gta Sa,, which is a big laugh to me.. They did the same thing with other games and movies.. Its just what stupid people do... lol indeed....
No! I'm Spamacus!
17th June 2003
Haven't there been a lot of people blaming this game on their actions in the past year? It seems like I keep seeing different articles about people claiming that they were pretty much possessed and the game somehow dictated their actions.