Skill Levels Improving? -1 reply

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Aurora-[NZ]

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#11 16 years ago

I definatly agree blade prodigy. Very good post, I read it all :D. You covered almost everything there but I notice you take particular reference to RPG's and FPS, RPG's being a "longer" game. This is true, but game developers have started to make FPS RPG'S which is damn cool. Stalker is apparently the first next-gen fps/rpg game to be hitting store shelves, though not until next year. As far as I know the game is open ended...to some extent.

Your right. We have become far more skilled at FPS games in general, rather than games getting easier. I can tell I have. I started playing Counter-Strike 1.0 around 4 or 5 years ago, when you were able to customise the look of your CT/T ie: Pink headbands :lol: Now I play on CS:S and I sometimes get accused of cheating by the stupid newbies, because I generally have a much higher score than any of them. What makes it even funnier is that the majority of those players are actually on broadband/high speed internet, but I am still on Dial-up 56k unfortunatly... But still kikin' thier ass.

Well there you go, I just used myself as an example, so I guess that proves your point! Good post.




blade_prodigy

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#12 16 years ago

It's good that you read all of it...lol. You apparently didn't read carefully enough, I did make mention of other genre's, but my main reason for focusing on those two was the drastic difference in margin of skill. Theres too much filler crap that takes up time and requires no skill in almost all RPG's, this obviously lowers the margin of skill quite a bit. I'm not measuring this margin purely by amount of time required to beat it, but its the most solid way to represent it, RPG's and FPS's being the two prime examples. RPG's are almost nothing but time-consuming nothingness, FPS's often being quite the opposite.

Don't get my wrong, I'll play a good RPG, I just don't get the typical Final Fantasy'ish type of game. It's bleedin' boring. I want something that takes skill, like Final Fantasy: Tactics. That game took a hella lotta good party management and strategy. You had to make the best possible use of all your units or you'd die. The bosses in the game aren't the typical "I have a lot of hp and can take a million hits, but ironically I only do 2 points of damage". The bosses in Final Fantasy Tactics are amongst the hardest in any game, especially Elidibs and some of the other Zodiac Monsters. Most of the Zodiac monsters can completely disable you/kill you in one turn. The final boss, Altima (Ajora), has a spell that he rarely uses which usually either kills/petrifies/completely disables your entire squad. You have to know the game really well, or be lucky in order to beat it. You don't have to be just patient like other games. Thats why Tactics wasn't very popular amongst FF7 fans, it was much more difficult. It is also why Final Fantasy Tactics Advance SUCKS. The game requires little/no strategy, its been dumbed down and "kiddie'fied" for the Nintendo handheld. And its easy as heck. They bastardized my fav. RPG of all time. :mad:

Anyways, I was just outlining and contrasting why gamers often have this perception of "developers are lazy, make game longer". For all intents and purposes, most FPS's have more story, content, difficulty, and length than FFX or FFX2. It's just the difference of skill levels between ourselves and the console n00bs. Its a shame that its a common misconception, but not much can be done, for now.




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#13 16 years ago

Now i have not played Hl2 yet so I'm just stating my opnion on incresing skill level with time.

My fist PC shotter was BF1942. At first i was horriable but withen a few months i was as good if not better than my friend was at it. Now I'm into COD its very different than BF1942 and even FH for aiming, iron sites. I started playing about 2 weeks ago and i was crap with rifles, so i stuck to the SMG's. Now I have had about 5 hours with the rifles and now I'm getting alot better. Same thing goes for racing games. I have been playing GT style games for asbout 3 and 1/2 years now. I got the steering, accelration, and braking dow very well. There were some tests in GT that i could not do 3 years ago, but i visited them back with all my experince and it was so easy. Also i think age has and affect on skill. My borther are 11 and 12. they can't shoot crap in FPS's. I'm a good bit older than they are and own them constantly.




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