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Druid_Allanon

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#211 13 years ago
Archon Kaiserthere are different ways to play though, that's the point. if you play a different way to what the server is made for, you're just asking to be called a lamer. and don't say something dumb like 'if people wanna duel there's a whole duel gametype'... newsflash: in FFA there can be as many duels goin on at once, so everyone gets to duel.

Newsflash: it was the JA+ mod that enabled multiple duels when originally only 1 duel going on was allowed in a server. It's not dumb, it's logic. Why else is the Duel gametype there for? Not for decoration, I'd bet. Despite having multiple duels in an FFA server due to JA+ mod, it's still WRONG to make dueling the MAIN activity in an FFA server.

this argument is pointless. if you just wanna frag stuff, go on Q3A, or UT2004. you can hardly call hittin stuff with a saber 'fragging'.

I'm tired of this 'if you wanna frag go play '. I can also say if you wanna duel, go play the EP3 game. If you wanna chat, go download MSN messenger/IRC. If you wanna roleplay, go play Neverwinter Nights. :rolleyes:

and if you had a brain at all, you'd realise the point of JA isn't fragging, even though that's one way to do things. it's mostly about doin all that fancy jedi/sith crap we all saw in the movies.

If you had a brain at all, you'd know THAT is the point of JA. Read the rules everytime you enter a server: 'Rules: Kill your enemies to score points!'. Also, it's about using the 'fancy jedi/sith crap' in addition with guns to enhance our fragging experience. :rolleyes:




Archon Kaiser

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#212 13 years ago

for your information jackass i DO play the Ep3 game, i DO play Neverwinter Nights. in fact, you want a list of all the games i play? Jedi Academy Halo Neverwinter Nights Diablo II Lord of Destruction X2: The Threat Final Fantasy XI Online Rubies of Eventide Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force UT2004 Unreal Tournament Half-Life 2 StarCraft Brood War Vangers Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory Quake III Arena Homeworld Homeworld: Cataclysm Homeworld 2 Tribes 2 Throne of Darkness Planescape Torment Baldur's Gate II so i play a lot of games. no matter what the game, different servers have different rules. if you don't wanna follow those rules, you get out of that server and find one with rules you DO want to follow.

Druid_AllanonNewsflash: it was the JA+ mod that enabled multiple duels when originally only 1 duel going on was allowed in a server. It's not dumb, it's logic. Why else is the Duel gametype there for? Not for decoration, I'd bet. Despite having multiple duels in an FFA server due to JA+ mod, it's still WRONG to make dueling the MAIN activity in an FFA server.

i never said it wasn't JA+ that gave that feature. and you're right, the duel gametype is there for duels. HERE'S THE GODDAMN DIFFERENCE IN CASE YOU'RE TOO STUPID TO REALISE: IN THE DUEL GAMETYPE, ONLY TWO PEOPLE CAN PLAY THE GAME AT ONCE!!! IN FFA, EVERYONE CAN PLAY AT ONCE, EVEN IF THEY ARE ONLY DUELLING!!! that's the goddamn difference, and THAT is why duelists run FFA servers and say "No FFA", because if they didn't run an FFA server for duels, they'd have two people fighting and another 20 people yawning because they're stuck in spectator mode. think about it dumbo! if you wanna FFA, go over to a server that has no rules, and stay the hell out of everyone else's goddamn way! if all you wanna do is kill stuff, then go to a server that lets you do that. but don't you ever shove your half-assed opinions down everyone else's throat. just remember, they buy the game, they pay for the server, so they can do what the f*** they want with it. if you want a pure FFA server, then buy your own f***ing server and shut up. if people don't wanna use guns, then go to a server with people who do. if people don't wanna FFA, then go to a server with people who do. just stop acting like you own every f***ing JKA server on the net and act your age. why do i always have to counter morons like you who don't know when to stop talking? :mad: "Rules: Kill your enemy to score points." I'm sure you overlooked this fact, but you still get points for winning duels, so either way you're still killing an enemy to score points. only difference is it's a fair fight in a duel. and it DOES take skill to win a duel, because there's only you and your opponent. there's nothing else to hurt him, so you have to avoid his hits and plant your own at the same time, which takes more effort than planting 20 detpacks behind a door and waiting for someone to open it. i'm not saying FFA isn't difficult, but duels can be just as hard, if not harder at times. this topic should have never arisen cause it's so moronic. now why don't some admins close this before everyone gets mad and it turns into a flamewar? cause i don't think anyone would like that.




Archon Kaiser

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#213 13 years ago

oh and one more thing druid, most of the servers out there running the actual Duel gametype have the max clients set between 6 and 10. there are barely any servers running Duel as it is. however, Duel FFA servers can accomodate up to 36 people. so there's another reason for you to shut up.




RaizanDelta

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#214 13 years ago

kaiser left one thing out there... altdim and stuff only applies for JA+ servers. yeah that's true. but then again, 'Duel FFA' servers run JA+, otherwise they wouldn't be able to play their gametype. you know, going into a Duel FFA server and goin nuts is kinda like going into an all-out FFA server and starting to RPG. pointless. there's plenty of servers out there that are for these FFAs. so why do you all need to go into a Duel FFA server and start FFAing? you don't, you only have to scroll a little further down the list and find an FFA server. and if you're in an FFA server and someone says 'lamer', just kill them again and ignore it cause there's no rules. when i'm running FFA servers, and someone starts spamming 'lamer' then i silence them for spamming pointless crap. i unsilence them 5 minutes later (if they're still there) and warn them that there are no rules, then if they start screaming admin abuse i kick them for breaking the one server rule - don't bitch about people breaking anti-laming rules because there aren't any. this argument never should've come up, and there's no more reasons to post here. it's over. quite a few people have already stated the answers and solutions to it, so really, there is no reason for anyone to post in this topic anymore unless they are one of the following: a) a noob b) an attention seeker. now, let's just make this an un-official Topic Closed ok? because there's nothing else to be said. if you're in a JA+ Duel FFA server and want to FFA, go to the altdim. the command is: "/amaltdim" (without quotes) if you're in an FFA server and someone kills you, don't scream lamer because it's pathetic. if you're going to be AFK, use a name that contains AFK (example: I change my name from RaizanDelta to Raizan(AFK) ) if you don't agree with the way someone is running a server, don't say a single word. just use "/disconnect" and go elsewhere. thats all you really need to do. those are the simple facts. (oh btw kaiser, IM me that stuff for that tournament you mentioned again, i wanna get the clan entered :smokin: anyways, see ya everyone!!! :cya: !!! next poster in this thread is an attention-seeking noob!!!!!




Diarrhea Knight

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#215 13 years ago

posted on: *looks at clock* By: an attention-seeking noob!!!!! And again Raizan is desperate for this thread to be closed, raizan do you feel stabbed near the heart whenever this topic is brought up? Some sensitive issues? Did u pay for this server... er i mean this forum thread?

CooL_JoE8My view on the whole lamer situation is this: You joined a server that wasn't payed for or supported by you, so follow the rules or find a new server. Yeah, that may not be want you want to hear, but hey, thats life. How about this as an example: Do you walk into another person's house and tell them how to do things? Nope, you follow their rules of their house. Same goes for gaming servers. As for the tennis court example given way back in the thread, the comparison would be a tennis player hitting the ball at the people in the stands. That is utterly stupid and is not playing the game as it should be. I've been on many servers where the "no laming" rule is in effect (infact my clan's server has the rule in effect). The only places where "no laming" is enforced is where people aren't fighting; aka sidelines. Obviously if you walk into the middle of a battle without your saber, you are going to get hit, so you cannot claim it as a "lame". All "no laming" servers I've been on play it like this. Don't want to get hit, stand off to the side. Likewise, if you want to hit people, don't run off looking for the ones without a weapon/standing still. And as much as you guys hate people crying "lamer!", the rest of us also hate when you guys aim directly for the guy/gal doing nothing (possibly with chat up). Come on, common sense says its not a fair fight if they aren't playing or have a chat box up. The way I see it is its simple to play FFA on a "no laming" server: Aim for the people with lightsabers winkx.gif. Not really a hard concept. If you were street fighting, would you leave the fight just to punch some random person from the crowd? Not unless you are a jerk (aka lamer).

Joe you compare servers to homes. Well a home is where ppl live in, the only reason others might enter are because they were invited. Whereas a server is totally different, a server's main function is for ppl to connect to so they can play jk3 with other players. If ppl dont connect, then its a pretty sad server. Admins cannot control the ppl who enter their servers, all they can do it kick/ban, there is no such filter for "dont let lamers in" or "you have to be this age to enter". If THEY want total domination over THEIR server becos they paid for it and want to feel like they are incharge, then they should password lock it and admire it on their own, maybe kill afew helpless jawas, without others coming in to disturb (im sure ppl will be able to live with one server less) or they can use their own map which no one else has (noob sign). The real problem is, most admins kick whenever they feel like it because nobody ever follows their stupid rulebook, well if ur that desperate for ppl to follow rules, maybe u should get a bunch of nub suckups and tell them the server's password which is kept locked 24/7. And pls dont bring up the "isnt going into a server and laming it like breaking into someone's home and stealing a bunch of stuff" cos ill be able to eat that one up too. On tennis game: Firstly, if you play tennis as an official sport you would play competitively even if it means having less fun. In gaming tournaments, ppl do that. However, normal ffa servers are not tournament servers and everyone (including the admin) plays or "not-play" for fun. If u had a non-competitive match with ur friend you probably would change the rules to suit both of ur taste. ppl go on servers to have fun, and when u get stupid admins who are functional illiterates, the message is never conveyed right. On street fighting: You obviously took things abit too literally, laming = kill unarmed enemy for w/e reasons you guys can think of, in jk3 ffa, everyone = enemy, in fighting, aggressors = enemy, to "lame" there would probably be to offer ur hand to him in truce and as he takes it he gets kicked in the nuts. AND, JA+ muiltiple duel function isnt as good an idea as it seems. Theres no satisfaction to pwning ppl who u challenge, dunno why but its like that for me, duel rooms grant more satisfaction when u win 10/0 and everyone else has a 0/3 score. Thats the only way ppl can learn well, ever wonder why 1337 = duel room and not JA+ ffa server?




The_Twig

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#216 13 years ago
Archon Kaiserfor your information jackass i DO play the Ep3 game, i DO play Neverwinter Nights. in fact, you want a list of all the games i play? Jedi Academy Halo Neverwinter Nights Diablo II Lord of Destruction X2: The Threat Final Fantasy XI Online Rubies of Eventide Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force UT2004 Unreal Tournament Half-Life 2 StarCraft Brood War Vangers Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory Quake III Arena Homeworld Homeworld: Cataclysm Homeworld 2 Tribes 2 Throne of Darkness Planescape Torment Baldur's Gate II so i play a lot of games. no matter what the game, different servers have different rules. if you don't wanna follow those rules, you get out of that server and find one with rules you DO want to follow. i never said it wasn't JA+ that gave that feature. and you're right, the duel gametype is there for duels. HERE'S THE GODDAMN DIFFERENCE IN CASE YOU'RE TOO STUPID TO REALISE: IN THE DUEL GAMETYPE, ONLY TWO PEOPLE CAN PLAY THE GAME AT ONCE!!! IN FFA, EVERYONE CAN PLAY AT ONCE, EVEN IF THEY ARE ONLY DUELLING!!! that's the goddamn difference, and THAT is why duelists run FFA servers and say "No FFA", because if they didn't run an FFA server for duels, they'd have two people fighting and another 20 people yawning because they're stuck in spectator mode. think about it dumbo! if you wanna FFA, go over to a server that has no rules, and stay the hell out of everyone else's goddamn way! if all you wanna do is kill stuff, then go to a server that lets you do that. but don't you ever shove your half-assed opinions down everyone else's throat. just remember, they buy the game, they pay for the server, so they can do what the f*** they want with it. if you want a pure FFA server, then buy your own f***ing server and shut up. if people don't wanna use guns, then go to a server with people who do. if people don't wanna FFA, then go to a server with people who do. just stop acting like you own every f***ing JKA server on the net and act your age. why do i always have to counter morons like you who don't know when to stop talking? :mad: "Rules: Kill your enemy to score points." I'm sure you overlooked this fact, but you still get points for winning duels, so either way you're still killing an enemy to score points. only difference is it's a fair fight in a duel. and it DOES take skill to win a duel, because there's only you and your opponent. there's nothing else to hurt him, so you have to avoid his hits and plant your own at the same time, which takes more effort than planting 20 detpacks behind a door and waiting for someone to open it. i'm not saying FFA isn't difficult, but duels can be just as hard, if not harder at times. this topic should have never arisen cause it's so moronic. now why don't some admins close this before everyone gets mad and it turns into a flamewar? cause i don't think anyone would like that.

Yikes calm down there lol. People starting to get a little worked up now. I'm beginning to agree with Raizen. This topic might want to get locked now. Also stupid question, any point to bleeping out f*** and such. You said basically every other word there lol. Anyway Raizen do you want the IP to Mj7 server? Just IM me, my aim is Jer16Crash and my MSN is [email]Jer12Crash@yahoo.com[/email]. I'll say it again this topic should be locked now.




Archon Kaiser

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#217 13 years ago
reallyreallyboredposted on: *looks at clock* By: an attention-seeking noob!!!!! And again Raizan is desperate for this thread to be closed, raizan do you feel stabbed near the heart whenever this topic is brought up? Some sensitive issues? Did u pay for this server... er i mean this forum thread?[/quote] i agree with raizan, this thread is just gonna end up in a flamewar. it should be deleted before things get that far. this thread is pointless and a waste of bandwidth.
reallyreallyboredJoe you compare servers to homes. Well a home is where ppl live in, the only reason others might enter are because they were invited. Whereas a server is totally different, a server's main function is for ppl to connect to so they can play jk3 with other players. If ppl dont connect, then its a pretty sad server. Admins cannot control the ppl who enter their servers, all they can do it kick/ban, there is no such filter for "dont let lamers in" or "you have to be this age to enter". If THEY want total domination over THEIR server becos they paid for it and want to feel like they are incharge, then they should password lock it and admire it on their own, maybe kill afew helpless jawas, without others coming in to disturb (im sure ppl will be able to live with one server less) or they can use their own map which no one else has (noob sign). The real problem is, most admins kick whenever they feel like it because nobody ever follows their stupid rulebook, well if ur that desperate for ppl to follow rules, maybe u should get a bunch of nub suckups and tell them the server's password which is kept locked 24/7. And pls dont bring up the "isnt going into a server and laming it like breaking into someone's home and stealing a bunch of stuff" cos ill be able to eat that one up too.[/quote] well if it's a clanserver, then it's the home of that clan. they may not only let invited people in, but it's THEIR server, THEIR rules.
reallyreallyboredOn tennis game: Firstly, if you play tennis as an official sport you would play competitively even if it means having less fun. In gaming tournaments, ppl do that. However, normal ffa servers are not tournament servers and everyone (including the admin) plays or "not-play" for fun. If u had a non-competitive match with ur friend you probably would change the rules to suit both of ur taste. ppl go on servers to have fun, and when u get stupid admins who are functional illiterates, the message is never conveyed right.
in tennis, you're playing to compete with the other players. in games, you're playing to have fun, not to compete. if you want a high score, then get one. just do it in the way the server was started for. [quote=reallyreallybored]On street fighting: You obviously took things abit too literally, laming = kill unarmed enemy for w/e reasons you guys can think of, in jk3 ffa, everyone = enemy, in fighting, aggressors = enemy, to "lame" there would probably be to offer ur hand to him in truce and as he takes it he gets kicked in the nuts.
we aren't talking specifically about no-rules servers, people who go into a no-rules server and say lamer are just idiots who can be ignored. main point here is that people like you think all servers are for no rules ffa, then when you start FFA in a Duel FFA server and get sent to altdim, or kicked, you scream admin abuse. that makes you just as bad as those idiots. [quote=reallyreallybored]AND, JA+ muiltiple duel function isnt as good an idea as it seems. Theres no satisfaction to pwning ppl who u challenge, dunno why but its like that for me, duel rooms grant more satisfaction when u win 10/0 and everyone else has a 0/3 score. Thats the only way ppl can learn well, ever wonder why 1337 = duel room and not JA+ ffa server?

what? there is a difference between dueling in a FFA server and dueling in a duel room? what the hell have you been smoking? the only difference is that you have to press a key to initiate a duel. allow me to elaborate... you should shut up before you dig yourself a bigger hole. Duel FFA servers, 'duel rooms', it's the same f***ing thing n00b, the only difference is in a JA+ FFA server you have lots of duels going on at once. other than that, IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME F***ING THING. duel in JA+ FFA server = duel in 'duel room'. exactly the same thing. if you challenge someone, it means you want to duel them. if someone challenges you, they want to duel you. either way, winning a duel in a JA+ FFA server is the same as winning a duel in a 'duel room'. the only difference between the two is that everyone can play, they don't have to wait for an hour. if you was really a good duellist, your score would still be way ahead anyway. dude, you're makin yourself look like an idiot. do yourself a favour and stop typing, cause you'll just make yourself look dumb. oh, one more thing. if anyone ever says they're 1337, or brags about being 1337, then it usually means they aren't 1337.




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#218 13 years ago

AHHHH THE VIOLENCE!!! This topic really should be locked now.




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#219 13 years ago

I don't appreciate people backseat moderating. If you think a thread should be closed/locked you can PM me about it. Saying things like "this thread is a pointless waste of bandwidth" is unnecessary and frankly quite irritating. By the way, Archon Kaiser, making a post with half-assed censored words in it is also a pointless waste of bandwidth, as they'll only be deleted anyway. Because you can't seem to handle yourselves, :closed: at the request of the masses.