To each his own Let's leave it at that. People who want to RPG are doing you no harm, so let them be. I personally don't like the RPG idea, that is why I don't go into RPG servers.
Boo hoo. That's really very touching... you're blaming RPGers on the fact that you don't have a job, refuse to ask for assistance in forming a server, and/or you can't find a server. Seriously... quite sad.
I can't believe you all care enough to argue about this. Don't you all have hobbies or something, or is Jedi Academy the be all and the end all of your entertainment?
Boohoo. No, I'm blaming RPGers for turning an FPS game into an RPG which isn't right, and that their 'get your own server' argument isn't valid.
Just because we argue the way how a game is supposed to be played doesn't mean we don't have lives. We just don't feel a need to show that we do. It's also precisely the fact that we have a life, that when we come home, tired from school/work, hoping to chill out by playing JKA and getting a few frags here and there, that it pisses us off to see people standing around doing nothing instead and kicking us off for playing the goddamn game.
And the fact that you 'care enough to argue about this' too, clearly shows who's the one with no life. :rolleyes:
WAIT Dont try to impress me with these such beautiful screenshot..RP on jka is still = Sitting and waiting for something to happen... P.S.: Omega Well what about a kid you called a fucking noob fat ugly nerd that comes to your house, may be fat or not, but does know his moves And smashes your nose, breaks your neck, does a triple-roundhouse like kick and breaks your back and legs.
Stop thinking the Tekken way...
I've been reading posts at this topic for some while now, and I just have the uncontrollable urge to answer now.
You are all aggerating, I am also noticing the drop of servers but that is simply because people go play different games. I've uninstalled JKA like 20x by now. However I've seen 1 or 2 RPG servers for the JA+ mod. But most RPG servers are with the Forcemod, which that mod is great for. There is 1 of 10 servers I believe which is a Forcemod FFA server, it has no rules. I must say playing there is fun for 15-20 min. but then it gets dreadfully boring.
I personally like the servers with rules better, it's totally not true that you can only get 2 kills in half an hour unless you totally suck or are to lazy to press "K" to challenge someone to a duel.
Also so far I haven't found it hard to find a FFA server without rules, just sort on players and most of the 32 player servers are FFA. Not hard at all.
I used to play JO aswel, when I just found that game I played FFA only, played that for a week or 3 and then got dreadfully boring of it. JA+ mod was a great addition to it.
And don't go tell me that no laming wasn't the way the creators made the game, because why the hell did they bring in the chat icon then? JKA and JO are the only games I've ever seen with chat icons or anything like that.
Also, you people say that the community is FORCED to play with "honor" well let's say I host a server in let's say... "Battlefield 1942". I call it "Xa4's Server". And when people come in I tell them to first ask someone if you may kill them. I can tell you now, that person will disconnect immidiantly. However no one (at least most of us) do that in JKA or JO how else would 90% of the servers be honor servers? The majority of the community wants honor servers I think so you'll just have to learn to deal with it, or buy/host your own FFA server.
Also if you want to kill people try different gamemodes FFA isn't the only one you know.
Xa4You are all aggerating, I am also noticing the drop of servers but that is simply because people go play different games.[/QUOTE] One of the reasons people go play different games is because most JA servers are boring chatrooms policed by anal-retentive "admins" who are just itching to amslap you upside your head.
Xa4There is 1 of 10 servers I believe which is a Forcemod FFA server, it has no rules. I must say playing there is fun for 15-20 min. but then it gets dreadfully boring.[/QUOTE] Only if you play the same old class over and over again (let me guess, Jedi\Sith or Mandalorian, right?) or if you never get close to being the top scorer.
Xa4Also so far I haven't found it hard to find a FFA server without rules, just sort on players and most of the 32 player servers are FFA. Not hard at all.[/QUOTE] Why don't you list some for us? Servers that are not true FFA (that is, they are really "FFA dueling" servers) or that have "no laming" rules don't count. Ideally, they should have all weapons and Force powers enabled, and actually have humans playing on them. If it's "not hard at all" you should be able to whip out a list in no time. We won't hold our breath waiting.Xa4I used to play JO aswel, when I just found that game I played FFA only, played that for a week or 3 and then got dreadfully boring of it. JA+ mod was a great addition to it.
Yes, disabling 80% of the game (disabling all weapons except the lightsaber, and disabling all Force powers except Jump) makes it very boring. Saber-only no Force anything is boring as hell. Try playing the game with 100% of it enabled and it's anything but boring. And how is adding abusive commands, and jetpacks and grapplehooks for everyone a "great addition" to the game?
[QUOTE=Xa4]And don't go tell me that no laming wasn't the way the creators made the game, because why the hell did they bring in the chat icon then? JKA and JO are the only games I've ever seen with chat icons or anything like that.
Um, chat icons have been part of Quake III engine games since, um, Quake III Are you saying that John Carmack wanted "no laming" rules in Quake III because he put a chat icon in the game????? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I think he put it in there to make it easier to spot lame players for an easy kill :D
If the Jedi Knight game designers believed in "no laming" they would have made people invulnerable while chatting. However, they know that is a stupid idea, so they didn't. However, that didn't prevent slider from adding it to JA+ mod to make all the chatty whiners and crybabies happy.
Get out your official Jedi Knight Jedi Academy manual (it came with the game. You did buy the game, right?). Please tell me what page the game designers put the "no laming" rules on. Hmmm, what's that you say? You can't find any mention of "laming" in the official game manual? Hmmm, isn't that odd.
However, page 36 of the official Jedi Knight Jedi Academy manual says this:FREE FOR ALL Best summed up as every person for him or herself, players score points by eliminating other players, and no one can be considered an ally. Weapons and equipment are acquired in the field, unless specified on the server. Some options include whether to allow Force powers or not and the maximum Force level available.
No mention of laming there.
[QUOTE=Xa4]Also, you people say that the community is FORCED to play with "honor" well let's say I host a server in let's say... "Battlefield 1942". I call it "Xa4's Server". And when people come in I tell them to first ask someone if you may kill them. I can tell you now, that person will disconnect immidiantly. However no one (at least most of us) do that in JKA or JO how else would 90% of the servers be honor servers? The majority of the community wants honor servers I think so you'll just have to learn to deal with it, or buy/host your own FFA server.
Yes, most people playing BF1942 and every other action game aren't silly, whiny crybabies like the majority of JK2 and JA players. They would never put up with the insane nonsense common on JK2 and JA servers. That's why most real players left or were driven out of this game.
And that's why "90% of the servers [are] honor servers". The boredom, silliness, whining, and especially the abuse on "honor servers" caused the majority of gamers to flee or avoid these games. So all that's left are the dregs, the bottom of the barrel, the "honor" players.
And I paid to host multiple JK2 and JA servers for 2 years. But without a steady stream of new real players, who is going to play on them? I was more successful than most, but I had no control over the game-killing activities on "honor" servers.
[QUOTE=Xa4] Also if you want to kill people try different gamemodes FFA isn't the only one you know.
Duh, that's why 3 of my 4 servers were CTF servers, one of the few islands of sanity (along with Siege and real Duel servers) left in this game.
But what a shame that the most popular game type for all action games, true Free For All, also known as Deathmatch, has been perverted and corrupted in JK2 and JA into nothing more than sitting around, chatting, and "RPGing".
Exacly. I like playing CTF, but I also like playing FFA, too bad I can't find many FFA servers. AVP2 suffers a similar problem, most of the games are Team Deathmatch, hardly any of the other type. Whilst the "honor" system on AVP2 is actually bareable if it is even put into play. But every now and then there is some idiot who when I hop into a Mech will tell me that I am being a n00b, whilst he is cloaked. I don't consider either to be n00b like, but it must be because he gets lasered alot by the mech not knowing that when cloaked you need to stick to the shadows :uhoh: When I play with my friends at Internet Cafes, we muck around and have a good time. The honor system would destroy our Battlefield fun (And Jedi Academy, which is where I got into it only a little while before borrowing some money from my mate to buy it.)
A few months back I played on a large FFA server with an average of about 25 players. It was sabers, detonators and trip mines only, with all force powers except lightning enabled, and there was no admin or voting, meaning that people could moan about force use etc. all they wanted and it wouldn't matter. There was also a group of about four players, who would go to an out-of-the-way area of the map at the start of each round, put on jawa skins, and RP to their heart's content. Most of them were new players, two of them were looking for new members for their clans. The point I'm trying to make is that RPing in a server like this is not always a bad thing. There were so many players in the map that there was constant action despite the RPing, and the game wasn't slowed down in the slightest. It also allowed the new players to find clans, and just generally feel more at ease in the JA community. I don't ever feel like RPing, and I hate abusive admins as much as anyone, but I deal with it by avoiding RP servers and not downloading JA+. If people want to RP, even though it isn't how the game was originally intended to be played, there's no harm at all in just ignoring them.
I agree. As was mentioned a few posts back, a few RP'ers would be harmless to the community. They'd just be looked upon as a minority and left alone. However, majority of the servers are RPing/honor based, in which both enforce the saber down=peace rule. It's hard to avoid RP servers if you really want to play TRUE FFA in JA.
That's a sad truth I've come to accept about JAMP - it will always be dominated by weak "honor" players and their rules. I'll usually stick to large, dedicated servers, where it's much harder for these types of player to have any say, or Siege servers, where honor rules just don't work.
You guys are idiots...btw hey Gojna...Scurrk from RPG World...Roleplaying isn't hurting anything...I go to ffa servers but I'm tired of people jsut chatting and when I lame them I get kicked..and its hard to find a server where all kills are free...on topic.. Roleplaying is an option you eithier do it or not. So don't complain about it assholes. I RP myself and it is indeed fun.. But have you ever tried doing it at all and not going on anubby RP serve rin FM3 and try rping with a ja plus server?