here is a discussion from JK2files between me and some other guy about Corrupt Jan V4
orginally said by Insecure If you continue submitting cruddy file material, you will continue to receive cruddy file ratings from the general public.
Honestly man. Your mapping is low grade work. Your skinning is low grade work. You're obviously new to modding, which isn't a bad thing. But you act all leet and superior because you feel that because you submit 3 files a week, you are the coolest thing ever.
I find Inyri's review let you off easy. I would've let you have it in every way possible were I the reviewer.
My advice: Pick a project. Post a WIP thread on a forum. Take advice and suggestions from the public, and then maybe you won't be surprised when you're getting bad reviews from them come release day.
4/10. I gave you a 4 because you know at least how to use shaders.
orginally said by DarK_DuDE hmmmm........ guessing that if you want a 100% accurate corrupt rogue, you would need to do some modeling im afraid
good attempt tho
orginally said by me hi, FuL*CruM here
i dont think im leet. i just keep on re-editing it really fast because you arent providing me with much info on what i should fix.....and yes the rogue(or shall i say Jan) is actually not supposed to be a Corrupt Rogue. Im simply making Jan have the similarities of a corrupt rogue. i AM NOT trying to win over people nto downloading it, im just seeing what they thing of my material (which they obviously don't like) and (how do you think Eye Candy Realm was started?)
Im not very experienced at JA or Modding, im rather new at modding. I just play JA and think some things need to be changed, thats all. The only thing people commented me for on JA was my strength in team games. (which was contrary to my modding skills)
I only did sloppy work because im not that good at GIMP, and I have neglected to ask for tutorials, so big on my part for me being so ignorant.
And i do apologize for my behavior on my readme. I was just mad because I could hardly find anything I could improve on. And im sorry if I was rather rude.
So, really, does anyone really want me to quit modding and just play JA normally? If so reply yes or no.
P.S. - I only used the JK2 model for two purposes-
1- To allow people in the JK2 community to be able to use this skin 2- When I colored the vest, It made the pale white skin z-fight with the shoulder part of the vest, making part of the back of the arm look funky, so I had no choice.
i have something to get off my chest. And this is just here because i just posted it in the comments on JK2files.com -To the admin- Don't move this, it does have to do with modding and editing because it involves my skin that was posted....
give up modding? If you do that you deserve a kick in the nutz!
Thing is nobody is born a talent.. in fact (IMO!) there is no such thing as talent.. just years upon years of practice.. The fact that some are good at it right from the bat has to do with how quick they are at picking up technique's etc to use.
My piece of advice If you are motivated, NEVER let anyone tell you to give up, nor consider it because of negative comments.
On the contrary, see the negatives as a motivation to keep on pimping your work. If you want an example, there is this guy at some other forum (which i cant say) who asked for a pokemon model 2-3 years ago, ppl laughed at him and even flamed at him, said his model was stupid and it was a dumb idea.
Now he returned and everyone is all over him like he is a GOD...
point is, practice is the key to success, negative comments should be your motivation, and your concentration combined with determination should provide grade A quality work over time!
I believe Silver touched most of the points I wanted to cover. I also know that this quote has been used a lot, however, it is because it brings up a good point.
"Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Elanor Rosevelt.
You should not be saddened by this in the very least. Maybe take the time to read up on some tutorials. And always remember if you are happy with it, what does it matter what everybody else thinks?
Keep Trying. "Never give up. Never surrender."
Ful*crum, I've been watching the progression of this. I'll admit, as a bystander, it's been kinda funny at certain points what some people have said. However, I have a little to say to you too. :]
Maybe skinning and mapping aren't your strong areas in modding. By all means, don't give up modding! But what I'm saying is that skinning and mapping aren't the only kinds of mods. There are plenty of others. There are sound mods, music mods, scripts, kill trackers and other stuff. There are also movies like the re-edited series that can be done. But my point is that you should try other kinds of things, and see what you get the best ratings at. Also, if you are critical in your head of your own work as you go and do lots of testing and then test it with other people, you're sure to get the major bugs worked out.
So try new things, and take your time on stuff. The more time spent, usually, the better the outcome. The corrupt jan definitely looked better in the final versions than it did in the first ones. If you can get that third version submitted as your first, you're that much closer to good ratings the first time around. :cool:
is this it?
i dont think its that bad. i have seen wayyy worse. keep it up, you do have talent!:)
WE (ov_nab622, Crossbolt, [LA]-Silver, and myself) have your back!
and i would love to beta test your work and give you my thoughts.
ov_nab622;3413832Maybe skinning and mapping aren't your strong areas in modding. ... But my point is that you should try other kinds of things, and see what you get the best ratings at.
That line must be the worst advice to a modder I've ever had the (questionable) honor to read during my multiple years of participating in the JO/JA mapping.
A modder should always do whatever brings him the most pleasure, one way or another. Only cheap and stupid books are written and movies scripted solely so that they would please equally cheap customers to the max. And mapping and modding are no different kinds of art.
Just do whatever you enjoy most. That ensures you will research and study the techniques it requires, motivated by your own interest, and thus you will respect your own work enough to automatically want to produce high quality. Eventually people interested in the same kind of stuff will find your products, and after seeing how much time and effort you invested, they will respect it. And the others... Who cares?
lassev;3413986That line must be the worst advice to a modder I've ever had the (questionable) honor to read during my multiple years of participating in the JO/JA mapping.
So the suggestion to try new things is crap? I personally do not think the same. While I agree that doing what you love is great, it doesnt hurt to go out and try new things. Hell, if I didnt go out and try new things, I wouldnt even have gotten into modding myself.
Excellent selective reading and interpreting. Why would I object trying new things?
What I objected is selecting what to do based on what manner of ratings those areas will result in "and see what you get the best ratings at."
Well, to be realistic, there are lots of people who enjoy fulfilling requests. So, in that sense I suppose you are right. But somehow I think that works best at limited scale. Although I don't know if even requests will ensure good ratings, no matter how much needed they were.