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#1 10 years ago

I know this might seem a little odd but when i compare the KOTOR games to the movies for the most part i actually find the stories, characters etc. etc. better than the original star wars. Well actually KOTOR1's canon ending just made me feel like "oh look. it's ROTJ all over again.... :uhm:" i found it's dark side ending to just somehow be much more... epic. although that might be partially because i'm very fond of the large fleets and such. (all those imperial star destroyers were half of the original trilogy 4 meh) now that i think of it, k1's DS ending makes more sense... like in TSL if you set up Revan as DS he leaves known space before he continues his war with the Republic and the rest of the Sith turn on each other. I just figured it'd be better if he became the Dark Lord again since after all he figured it was the only way to defeat the True Sith. So in other words canon KOTOR was all sunny and happy like the Disciple or the movies... Let's move on to TSL. I loved that game. It was just utter brilliance. I say it'd been perfect if it weren't for those ballbreakers down at LA cracking down on Obsidian for no reason. :bawl: it had a much darker feel. it was an excellent story until you reached the botched ending :p I loved everything about that one. the environments, dialogs, characters, etc. etc. Even when you pick the LS "end" you destroy Malachor V and learn about the True Sith. The exile abandons everybody she knew during that time leaving the galaxy in shambles. who knows what KOTOR3 will be like or before we can get excited about that, what will the restored TSL be like compared to the original films? well that's enough of my rants. discuss

oh wait i forgot. before anybody asks me to compare KOTOR and TSL to the prequels please view these short vids i found on youtube. YouTube - The Phantom Menace in 5 Seconds YouTube - Attack of the Clones in 5 Seconds YouTube - Revenge of the Sith in5 Seconds yeah that's pretty much the prequels and no they weren't made by me :lol:




Jedijax

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#2 10 years ago

Well, I agree with you. It is no secret I dislike the treatment George Lucas gave his very own masterpiece. The modern novels, comics and videogames make a better job when it comes to that galaxy far, far away. They are far more serious, dramatic and philosophic, whereas the films mostly deal on special effects and lame dialogue. No one can deny Lucas is the father of modern cinematography; none of what we see today on screen would have been possible without his legacy to the world, but as far as Star Wars goes, I've always thought there are works and authors that have gone well beyond George's wildest expectations and capabilities.




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#3 10 years ago

George Lucas, whether he admits it or not, is a kid at heart - and his movie scripts are written for kids. They are almost exclusively action and special effects and that's it.

As children's movies, the Star Wars movies are very good. It's only adults that find something lacking (like a plot.)

That's why I love the books so much, they really fill in the plot for me. And the advantage of the films is that plot details are so scarce, the authors can really excercise their creativity when writing their books.

KOTOR would make a fantastic book, IMO.




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#4 10 years ago
KOTOR would make a fantastic book, IMO.

doubtful. i mean look at what's already happened to the comic series :rolleyes:




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#5 10 years ago

What's happened to the comic series?

I only buy Omnibus (books) of comics. Got Tales of the Jedi 1 and 2.




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#6 10 years ago
What's happened to the comic series? I only buy Omnibus (books) of comics. Got Tales of the Jedi 1 and 2.

i'm not sure as i haven't read all of them but so far whats happened from what i hear is that LA has forced Dark Horse to make a bunch of lame strings of cop-outs for their time constraints that F**k with already established canon. E.G. they tried to say Kreia was half Miraluka (even though it's already stated in K2 that her sight was one of the things she gave up to better understand the force as Darth Traya)




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#7 10 years ago

We don't know that they are, but it's possible (even likely) that's the way things are headed.

Though I have an inkling suspicion that they're trying to throw us off with Krynda. I think she's long dead, but that's jut me.

Oh, and LA has nothing to do with the comics. That's LB territory, and they don't actually do squat; they just hire Dark Horse to hire people like Mr Miller to do that. So blame him. ;)




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#8 10 years ago

Besides, I love the comics! The story of Zayne Carrick is one of my favorites right now, since it goes away from the usual Jedi type. The Mandalorian Wars are also well depicted. All in all, the KOTOR comics are the best thing I've read since the Dark and Crimson Empire story arcs.




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#9 10 years ago
Jedijax;4372605Besides, I love the comics! The story of Zayne Carrick is one of my favorites right now, since it goes away from the usual Jedi type. The Mandalorian Wars are also well depicted.

I like them too, but I think they're heading downhill. But since the final arc will end this year, I'm sure they'll leave with a bang. I hope the new series is set in the KotOR era, though. I'm betting either they'll finish off the Mandalorian Wars, or focus on Revan's empire during the start of the Jedi Civil War.

All in all, the KOTOR comics are the best thing I've read since the Dark and Crimson Empire story arcs.

Crimson Empire was fantastic. :) A shame they never made the third one.




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JCarter426;4372762Crimson Empire was fantastic. :) A shame they never made the third one.

It's just a shame that more wasn't done with Kir Kanos.

I mean c'mon, he's Force Sensitive (Carnor Jax was, and the likeness between them is undeniable to the point that they're most likely clones), he could probably give almost any of the Jedi of his time a serious beating in combat.

Heck, I'm surprised he was never sought out to train a new generation of Senate guards or even spec-ops troops.

As for comparing KoTOR and TSL to the movies..... Well, I'd put them on par with the Original Trilogy. Obviously when I say that I refer to its state before Lucas thought it would be such a great idea to have Hayden Christian replace Sebastion Shaw at the end of RoTJ, or having a totally pointless introduction to Mos Eisely...... that looked bad.

Come to think of it, many things done to the OT were really quite atrocious! C'mon, Han shot first! The Sarlaac has no beak! etc etc.

Where was I earlier? Ah yes, KoTOR compared to the movies.

To be honest, I found KoTOR to be much more similar to ANH with less similarity to RoTJ, but the similarities were still there nontheless. TSL deffinitely is the ESB of KoTOR. It's darker, has a more repressive atmosphere, and the "good guys" are losing.

Meanwhile, going on (yet another) complete tangent, there's a lovely video on Youtube that actually makes a certain part of and characer in TPM much more bearable, dare I say enjoyable.......

CLICK IT! YouTube - Star Wars Spoof Battle With Benny Hill You know you want to.....