If you were Revan, what would YOU have done during the War? -1 reply

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Darth Dracon

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#1 10 years ago

What would you, as Revan have done differently during the Mandalorian War to ensure complete victory? I for one would have HK-47 kill Malak, assassinate the Jedi Council and conquered and fortified every Jedi Enclave, temple, school and world that they had a large enough presence. I would have had the Star Forge build another Star Forge orbiting Coruscant or Alderaan to start building an even larger military Force. I would have subjugated the Senate into absolute dictatorship and used the forces for a deep space excursion into the Unknown Regions to route out these "True Sith".:deal:




Razgriz1928

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#2 10 years ago

Ok, first of all, no offense, but that plan is completly rediculous. For starters, HK-47 probably couldn't kill Malak we all know that. And you think the Jedi Council is just a bunch of 8 year old Padwans? You didn't even explain how you were going to assisnate them, and you just assume they'd be so easy to take down. And you think that other Jedi would fall so easily like them as well. And how exactly would you have a star forge, build another star forge? The Sith probably had no idea how the thing was even constructed, let alone how most of the thing worked. And you think the senate would just stand for you turning the Republic into an Empire? Remember something called the Galatic Civil War? Finally, it probably doesn't even matter how much people you had with you, you would probably get lost or die in the unkown reasons of space just trying to go through a fraction of it. I'm sorry and i don't mean this as a personal attack it just really urks me when people start these topics and don't think them through.




Tulak Hord

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#3 10 years ago

Meh, Dracon's plan is pretty good, if you do some crazy stuff, itll work




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#4 10 years ago

Well Dracon, Revan would never resort to such a thing. I think you have him confused with Malak. There wasn't much that could've been done differently really, except I would've killed Malak when I had the chance. (The first time he betrayed me)




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#5 10 years ago

Ok, first of all, if I was in Revan's place, I would never have called myself Revan... let alone The Revanchist... one of the most ridiculous names ever... Second, the only smart thing to do would be to follow Ulic Qel-Droma's footsteps and defeat Mandalore the Ultimate in a one-on-one battle, to end the mandalorian invasion and add their might to the Republic. If you are dark-sided, then you add the conquerors to your very own armada. However, this course of action spares you of Revan's idiotic campaign which gained neither the strengthening nor the destruction of the galactic ruling body. Now, as for personal direction, I would definitely have sided with the Republic, seeing as the Mandalorian Wars were manipulated by a third, elusive party. Besides, mandalorian intelligence shared with the regular army would have revealed the existence of an even deadlier threat beyond the reaches of known space: The Yuuzhan Vong. I mean, even Palpatine was worried about them!! And seeing the damage caused by the aliens thousands of years later, the mandalorian alliance would be key to galactic security. Regardless, no one can predict the future... perhaps merging the mandalorians with the republic forces would have generated an even greater danger... who knows?




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#6 10 years ago

Also, we can not yet state whether or not his campaign was truly... idiotic.

We don't know all of the results of it yet. I'm sure we will when KOTOR 3 comes out though.




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#7 10 years ago

which well be forever at this rate XD Its like Republic Commando! I mean its been like 5 years and no sequel. I want to know what happened to Sev!




Darth Dracon

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#8 10 years ago
Razgriz1928;4316602Ok, first of all, no offense, but that plan is completly rediculous. For starters, HK-47 probably couldn't kill Malak we all know that. And you think the Jedi Council is just a bunch of 8 year old Padwans? You didn't even explain how you were going to assisnate them, and you just assume they'd be so easy to take down. And you think that other Jedi would fall so easily like them as well. And how exactly would you have a star forge, build another star forge? The Sith probably had no idea how the thing was even constructed, let alone how most of the thing worked. And you think the senate would just stand for you turning the Republic into an Empire? Remember something called the Galatic Civil War? Finally, it probably doesn't even matter how much people you had with you, you would probably get lost or die in the unkown reasons of space just trying to go through a fraction of it. I'm sorry and i don't mean this as a personal attack it just really urks me when people start these topics and don't think them through.[/quote]
Tulak Hord;4316790Meh, Dracon's plan is pretty good, if you do some crazy stuff, itll work[/quote] [quote=Revan91;4316815]Well Dracon, Revan would never resort to such a thing. I think you have him confused with Malak. There wasn't much that could've been done differently really, except I would've killed Malak when I had the chance. (The first time he betrayed me)
[quote=Jedijax;4317417]Ok, first of all, if I was in Revan's place, I would never have called myself Revan... let alone The Revanchist... one of the most ridiculous names ever... Second, the only smart thing to do would be to follow Ulic Qel-Droma's footsteps and defeat Mandalore the Ultimate in a one-on-one battle, to end the mandalorian invasion and add their might to the Republic. If you are dark-sided, then you add the conquerors to your very own armada. However, this course of action spares you of Revan's idiotic campaign which gained neither the strengthening nor the destruction of the galactic ruling body. Now, as for personal direction, I would definitely have sided with the Republic, seeing as the Mandalorian Wars were manipulated by a third, elusive party. Besides, mandalorian intelligence shared with the regular army would have revealed the existence of an even deadlier threat beyond the reaches of known space: The Yuuzhan Vong. I mean, even Palpatine was worried about them!! And seeing the damage caused by the aliens thousands of years later, the mandalorian alliance would be key to galactic security. Regardless, no one can predict the future... perhaps merging the mandalorians with the republic forces would have generated an even greater danger... who knows?

What makes you think that I haven't thought this out? Just because I didn't spell out a 100,000 word dissertation on my plans to destroy the Jedi and forge the Republic in MY image doesn't mean that I don't spend the greater part of my waking time not planning these things!!!!:sitonit: Ok. But I am one Crazy Sumbitch! Ok, you want to go to war? Ok. I take you to war. As I studied the mass information on the archives available to me as a Jedi Knight on Coruscant and by listening well to my first teacher, Kreia, I would have know that the Darkside is not to be feared, but to be understood. I would have also learned that a great leader studies the plans of buildings, the lay outs of cities, the structures of governments, the might of the military, the strength of the Jedi and their weaknesses and the overall sentiments of the worlds joined with the Republic. Knowing that Coruscant is the center of the Republic and if it fell, it would certainly cause mass chaos throughout the government and bring the Republic to a crawl and panic. As I studied the history of the Republic, I would have also taken into account the history of the wars that have greatly affected the Republic and actually brought reform and radical admendments through the Senate. I would have studied the Senate and the Senators and determined which ones would most likely be swayed to my position when the time comes. I would have bought their loyalty by eliminating their chief rivals in business or politics or by money, women and the occasional death threat (as needed). This would put a large number of powerful votes in my pocket when the time came to take control of the Senate. (Why not? I'm sure Palpatine did it too.) I would have paid off certain commanders, generals and admirals in the Republic Army and Navy sympathetic to my point of view and gauranteed their ascention once I had control of the Republic. I would have bought them to control the forces they command. Once I had what I wanted, those commanders that I saw as opposed to me at least in political theory and application, I would have killed as one would throw out garbage. The Jedi Council. I would have studied their personal files and would, over time have gained their confidence and trust so that I might learn how best to destroy them (Darth Paegius, anyone?) from the inside and from the outside. I would have various means of causing their deaths. I would use HK-47 for some assassination missions (play TSL again and talk to HK for the ways to kill Jedi, if you have enough influence with him, he goes off on the subject.) I would handle the deaths of the leading members of the High Council myself. I would cause strife on their homeworlds where they would have no choice but to leave to those planets to investigate and return peace only to have them walk into traps leading to their deaths. Perhaps I would set up an ambush for them using Force sensitives that were trained to mask their presence in the Force, like I would have learned from Kreia. Maybe I would have masked my own presence and ambushed a few of them myself, knowing that sometimes, the easiest way to get the job done is to do it yourself, no complex plan, no subtleties. Sometimes the best offense is a full frontal assault when they least expect it. Perhaps I would get off on rigging certain devices to blow up when the user activated them or have their personal transports go ka-blooey when they leave the temple or their private residences. One way or another I would remove the existing council and have a hand in the next council by swaying certain masters to appoint others. Of course, I would not forget the little people. I would go to Onderon and Nar Shadaa to cause some problems their that the Republic would have to intercede in just to start a little noise. I would arm dissident groups against the soverign governments on Alderaan and Mon Calamari, to name a few, to create chaos, all the time hiding in the shadows of the darkside. I would have my own little army of Force Users that I have been training since I became a Jedi Knight, loyal only to me, using them as extensions of my will to carry out my plans across the Republic. I would direct my bought and paid for Senators for certain actions and certain "dragging of the feet" when it came to decide what course of action to take on these worlds where the dissidents were uprising. I would direct certain paid for admirals to target the innocent and government buildings as part of teh collateral damage from high orbit bombardment in accordance to my plans to create more dissention in the Senate. I would use the military to get to the Supreme Chancellor to project the uprisings upon the Mandalorians that are now invading the Outer Rim worlds. In building the military and Jedi forces to meet them, I woul dhave found the Star Forge. I would quickly use the power of this mass factory to build new ships and weapons for the coming war. At the same time, I would have had the top Jedi scientists, loyal to me, figure out how to at least replicate the Star Forge's ability to repoduce the machinery needed for war. With this knowledge I would have had a miniature Star Forge replicating capital ships, weapons, and equipment for the coming war and would have placed it in orbit high above Coruscant. I would have met with Mandalore ar least once and offered him key sectors of the Republic in exchange for certain concessions, i.e. stopping his advancement short of the mid rim sector, limited access to the core with Republic escort, a seat on the Senate. If he refused then I would have killed him, claimed the clans for myself and would have had the armada that I have built for come in and sweep the Mandalorians, who being caught off guard, had no idea that we were ready for them. Then I would stage the whole friggin war myself, thanks to Kreia's advise, and make the Republic THINK that the Mandalorians were on a full frontal assault. Then with MY Jedi Council in charge with MY Senators and MY Military commanders, the pressure on the Chancellor to order war would be so great that there would be no choice but to commit all resources to the effort. As the only obvious choice to spearhead the operation, I would have the government install me as Supreme Commander of Republic Forces. I would then command all the Republic military and the Jedi. After the false war was won and the "Mandalorians" were defeated, I would stage a final conflict at Malachor V, knowing from Kreia that this is a taboo, forbidden world to the Mandalorians. I would have set the stage for a large scale battle crippling ships on both sides and causing acceptable losses on the Republic side to seal the reality of the war. At the same time, I would have sent many of my Jedi followers to the Trayus Academy for formal "training" in the Darkside. I would have the military take the surviving real Mandalorian prisoners before the Senate and have them all executed publicly to instill fear and assurance at the same time. How you ask? But Jedi do not kill their prisoners you say? Bah! By publicly executing the Manadlorians, I put the face to the threat and that would make certain that any would-be rivals or dissenters would hesitate to act against such a regime that involved the whole of the people of the Republic on such a scale. And as the new Chancellor, I would have the power to order such executions, despite being Jedi. I would order the Senators to vote new powers of oversight over the Jedi to keep control and slowly have the masters loyal to me introduce, slowly and subtlely the teachings of teh Darkside, just enough to start the seduction and then enough to overtake them. Then as the entire Galaxy is in my hand, I take full control of the Republic, eliminate the entire Senate by having the military rig the entire complex to blow and place Coruscant under military jurisdiction under the pretenses that dissident Rodian and Trandoshan terrorists with the help of certain rival Senators had planned and carried out the horrible tragedy of the destruction of the Senate. Now with none to question my power, I crush the Republic of all contention and the Sith would rule for a thousand years of peace.:deal: Now what do you say?




Zipacna

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#9 10 years ago

What I would have done as Revan? Fought like the real one did but with one exception: I would not have authorized the activation of the shadow generator on Malachor V. After the end of the war, I would have rejoined the Jedi and handed the Star Forge over. That way, they (the council) wouldn't have been able to stay as arrogant and all-knowing as they liked to appear. They also would have had to rethink their teachings concerning war... of course, a lot of the Jedi that had fought would have turned to or stayed on the Dark Side nonetheless but they would have lost their greatest leader... That way, I would have been of much more use to the Jedi than in that "lost my memory"-form of K1... Sorry if that doesn't fit with my name but... you know.


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#10 10 years ago
DarthZipacna;4322856What I would have done as Revan? Fought like the real one did but with one exception: I would not have authorized the activation of the shadow generator on Malachor V. After the end of the war, I would have rejoined the Jedi and handed the Star Forge over. That way, they (the council) wouldn't have been able to stay as arrogant and all-knowing as they liked to appear. They also would have had to rethink their teachings concerning war... of course, a lot of the Jedi that had fought would have turned to or stayed on the Dark Side nonetheless but they would have lost their greatest leader... That way, I would have been of much more use to the Jedi than in that "lost my memory"-form of K1... Sorry if that doesn't fit with my name but... you know.

But knowing the Jedi, upon capturing the Star Forge, they would have either destroyed it letting the whole of the Order witness it and call it a device of the Darkside or they would have hidden it away and tried to use it for their own ends, evetually ending up being corrupted themselves. It's a toss up, but I think that the best thing would be to keep it out of everyone's hands. So the fact that it was destroyed (LS ending) at the end of KOTOR I was a good thing. Too bad though, it woul dhave been cool to travel to it in TSL and pick up the pieces where Revan left off.