If you were Revan, what would YOU have done during the War? -1 reply

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Darth Dracon

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#21 11 years ago
Jedijax;4326835A good question, and one which seems to confuse many contributors. Indeed, by doing what you have stated, you would be a Dark Jedi, not a Sith. The difference is quite clear, as you have not been trained in the Sith tradition since an early age, nor have you been chosen by a Sith Lord to be his disciple. However, since you bear the Darth title in your poster nick there are only two explanations: Either you have been a Sith in disguise all this time, which is higly unlikely, since you would have been discovered during training in the Order, or, like Revan, you have chosen the title yourself yet are no Sith at all. Just for show. :lol: And since you are in the Senate, well, lets just say it is a lucky thing that some renegade Jedi Knights are out there, beyond the High Council's authority, willing to take down any threat to their interests, and that their mentor is well into potential tyrants' schemes :lol:

Thank you for the distinction. I, of course, concur. I am a Dark Jedi, but as any real Sith has yet to reveal themselves, I took it upon myself to study the ways of the Sith as best I could. Of course, study and adherance to the code and it's ways is no substitute for true indoctrination. That's why I'm not into religions! Anyway. I am a Dark Jedi, but I did take the title. Maybe for a little show, maybe because deep down inside, I am waiting for those "True Sith" to show up and either welcome me or destroy me. Until that time arrives, I will continue to bear the matle of Darth Dracon, Dark Lord of the Sith. I'll give you some history. I was once a promising young Jedi. My first master was a beautiful woman from Corellia. She was strong in the healing arts and I would have to say that I was...passionate...about her. Perhaps more than was appropriate. When she died on a mission to Kessel, I was crushed. But then Master Vrook took me under his wing. What a wind bag that guy was! Always "you must focus on this, study that, don't let your emotions rule you" blah, blah, blah. Thankfully, my last master, Arvalen of Arkania, saw the potential in me and took me to study as a Jedi Weapon Master under his guidance. He was a powerful master and I looked up to him and agreed with him on his political views of the Republic. But he would not voice his opinion with the Council. I thought him weak for this. Upon completing my time with him I took the trials. I was granted the rank of Jedi Knight. Arvalen was very proud. In time, I entered into the Jedi Diplomatic Corps. Arvalen always said that the best Jedi is one that is dangerously skilled with both lightsaber and speech. After returning from a trade dispute on Manaan, I met with Arvalen. Something in him had changed. His spirit was not what it once was. I sensed fear, weakness and doubt. After arguing about the Senate and about the foolishness of the Council to not back Revan, we started to fight, physically. I drew my cyan bladed lightsaber and cut him down in fury and anger. The wave of emotions flooded my being like the sound of stampeding bantha. It felt good.... it felt real... I wanted more. I knew that I was Jedi no longer. The council would never forgive me and I knew that I would be exiled or imprisoned. But I also knew that there were others on the Council far worse than I. I could not let them imprison me. I left to fight with Revan. He understood my fears. He understood my emotions. He took me into his army. But it just wasn't enough. We had very different ideas of how to best win the war. I left after after several months, but not before I had slaughtered at least a legion of Mandalorians. And every one I layed low, I reached out to their minds and bodies with the Force to feel their pain and their final thoughts. It was intoxicating... And I wanted more... That's all for now.




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#22 11 years ago

Dracon, there is only one thing in your way... me. An obstacle that can't be moved... you just have to go around...

Anyway, I would have done the same thing as Revan, except not turning to the dark side, then I would bring the star forge over to the republics side. Not to mention I would then take control of the GenoHardan and then control the senate by bribing the senators and sub meetings. Then I would operate the Star Forge and sell the ships...




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#23 11 years ago
Speer;4327748Dracon, there is only one thing in your way... me. An obstacle that can't be moved... you just have to go around... Anyway, I would have done the same thing as Revan, except not turning to the dark side, then I would bring the star forge over to the republics side. Not to mention I would then take control of the GenoHardan and then control the senate by bribing the senators and sub meetings. Then I would operate the Star Forge and sell the ships...

My, my, my. Aren't you arrogant, impetuous and boastful? Only YOU stand in my way? Immovable, you say? Well, if an object is in my way, I don't expend precious time, energy and resources to try to move it...I find the best way to either destroy or bring it down to nothing. So, if you wish to incite a challenge with me then I'm game! Bring it! :saber: So you would have done the same thing as Revan only not fall to the Dark Side, huh? So then what do you call taking over the Genohardan and bribing the Senate? Acts of compassion? Buddy, that's got Dark Side written all over it. :Puzzled: As my new apprentice, Revan 91 would tell you, brute force is not the way to win this confrontation. Reread my posts on the subject only this time take notice of the subtleties and savory manipulations that are imbedded. I only use force when necessary, not as the means to the end. The Star Forge is a tool of the Dark Side that draws upon Dark energy to fuel it. It can not be used for good as whatever it makes is by definition imbued with and of the Dark Side. To whom would you sell the ships? If to the Republic for profit, then that is niether Jedi nor Sith and I must inform you that just being on the ship the Dark Side would soon corrupt any that would use it, including Jedi. And besides the Jedi Council would NEVER allow such a powerful weapon of the Dark Side to exist or even be used by anyone, let alone Jedi. So you see, your plan is not only fallible, but ridiculous. Have at thee. :spank:




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#24 11 years ago

I'm not going to be your personal kiss ass here my master. sorry. :rofl::rofl: Speer, your intentions are admirable, but it can't be like that. Dracon's right. The Star Forge is like the One Ring in LOTR. It cannot be used for good no matter what the user tries. Gandalf himself wouldn't be able to use it for good. It would corrupt him. Same goes for the Star Froge. It feeds only on the power of the dark side, because the Rakata were once force-sensitive, and used that power to conquer the entire galaxy. *Sith-like beliefs* That is why the Star Forge worked so well for them.




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#25 11 years ago
Revan91;4327974I'm not going to be your personal kiss ass here my master. sorry. :rofl::rofl: Speer, your intentions are admirable, but it can't be like that. Dracon's right. The Star Forge is like the One Ring in LOTR. It cannot be used for good no matter what the user tries. Gandalf himself wouldn't be able to use it for good. It would corrupt him. Same goes for the Star Froge. It feeds only on the power of the dark side, because the Rakata were once force-sensitive, and used that power to conquer the entire galaxy. *Sith-like beliefs* That is why the Star Forge worked so well for them.

Don't need to be a kiss ass, Revan91. That's not what I want. Very good reference there, with the LOTR. See, Speer? I'm not the only one.




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#26 11 years ago

I got a better Idea then, I'll capture you and put you in a room that is surrounded by Yaslamari, then have large flat screen TV's, all around you playing teletubies...

You would be stuck in the middle being tortured by the teletubies, then I would use you to power the Star Forge, while I'm off being me.

I would actually be a Grey Jedi, they feed off both light and dark, so therefore I would not be dark side and not light, But Grey. Kinda like Tom Bombadil in LoTR, he is not affected by the ring but can use it...

Then I would hire HK-47 as my house keeper...

My logic is incontestable, contest it and you will be maimed.




Jedijax

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#27 11 years ago

Actually, there's no need for such an extreme measure. I believe Darth Dracon may be responsible for his own fall, much like Palpatine. The way he plans on doing things tends to create many enemies, and eventualy, enemies too powerful to defeat. No true tyrant has ever been in power for long. Besides, you are dealing on how YOU would counter his rule, or at least, his rise to power, without taking into consideration any other characters in play. If I were to adventure into the realm of possibilities, I would have terminated him since he was pretty young, long before he became a threat. How? one may ask, and there is only one answer: Me, Gray Jedi Seer/Sage.




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#28 11 years ago

You're right 'bout the tyrant thing...

*psst* The thread was about what you would do if you were Raven, not how to kill Dracon, but that would be a good thread...




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#29 11 years ago
Speer;4328076I got a better Idea then, I'll capture you and put you in a room that is surrounded by Yaslamari, then have large flat screen TV's, all around you playing teletubies... You would be stuck in the middle being tortured by the teletubies, then I would use you to power the Star Forge, while I'm off being me. I would actually be a Grey Jedi, they feed off both light and dark, so therefore I would not be dark side and not light, But Grey. Kinda like Tom Bombadil in LoTR, he is not affected by the ring but can use it... Then I would hire HK-47 as my house keeper... My logic is incontestable, contest it and you will be maimed.[/quote] Your logic is not logic, Mr. Spock. You're rambling on like a 12 year old on a Kool-Aide high. Contesting it is like looking at an ink blot; only you see what you want to see. Being a Grey Jedi means that you are loyal to the Jedi Order, not necessarily to the High Council. You still operate for the Jedi, but you may disagree with them. I think you are confused as to the nature of a Grey Jedi. I suggest a little more research. And what makes you think that you can find me and take me?
Jedijax;4328866Actually, there's no need for such an extreme measure. I believe Darth Dracon may be responsible for his own fall, much like Palpatine. The way he plans on doing things tends to create many enemies, and eventualy, enemies too powerful to defeat. No true tyrant has ever been in power for long. Besides, you are dealing on how YOU would counter his rule, or at least, his rise to power, without taking into consideration any other characters in play. If I were to adventure into the realm of possibilities, I would have terminated him since he was pretty young, long before he became a threat. How? one may ask, and there is only one answer: Me, Gray Jedi Seer/Sage.
Palpatine did not fall at all. He was raised as a Sith. He was indoctrinated as a Sith. He was taught to hate the Jedi and all that they stand for. He was never a Jedi that was seduced by the Dark Side. He was raised in the Dark Side, brought up by a Sith Lord that taught him how to fight, strategy, history, philosophy, how to lead, how to manipulate, how to use the Force. Palpatine was one of the best, if not the best Sith Lord because his eventual rise to power came from 35 years of planning every minutia of detail, every possible outcome that could be calculated. He was ingenious in his stratgies of domination and his tactics were almost flawless. He had everyone fooled, even the Mighty Jedi Council, all of whom are so highly regarded and venerable masters, including the old and wise and powerful Yoda. Sidious owned him in that last fight of theirs. One such as I will always have enemies. Power is not just internal manifestations, but external forces, too. If you have followers willing to die for your cause, then few enemies would get near enough to you. Those that wish your down fall will either do it themselves, thereby exposing themselves or will try to recruit others sympathetic to their cause. You are comparing my plans to those of Sidious, which you should not. I would rule benevolently, letting the people live thier lives, not force them into my over ambitious points of view. Terminating Revan is something that the Jedi Council would never agree to. Plus, if you did so on your own, you would be hunted by the Jedi as a fallen Dark Jedi. [quote=Speer;4330348]You're right 'bout the tyrant thing... *psst* The thread was about what you would do if you were Raven, not how to kill Dracon, but that would be a good thread...

Am I so much of a threat that you wish to destroy me, Speer? And the rest of you? Do you share this sympathy? I thought that we were supposed to share our thoughts and opinions. That's what I have been doing. You would blame me for pointing out facts and making posts on those facts? I welcome you all as brothers and sisters in arms and yet, some wish my downfall? This is a sad, sad state of affairs.




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Hahahahaha! As much as I love history lessons, your description of Palpatine's life and character is lost on me. What were you trying to point out with it? The fact you are a Dark Jedi and not a Sith? You see, I wasn't arguing that. What I wanted to make clear is tyrants have never ruled for a long time, and they are usually, if not always, de-throned by adversaries they, themselves, have procured. Now, as for terminating Jedi, I think you may have your facts a little off this time, since many knights have been known to terminate darksiders, regardless of their affiliation, and that doesn't make them Dark Jedi. It was suggested in-game, on several ocassions, and at least by two characters, that Revan was a darksider since, at least, the beggining of the Mandalorian Wars, and facts seem to corroborate it. Besides, good Dracon, as I stated earlier, were I a Force-user affiliated to the Jedi Order, I wouldn't necessarily act under their direct authority, but rather believe in The Living Force and its neutral nature, a proposal on which Potentium would be based thousands of years later. I would certainly act as Kyp Durron as a Jedi High Master, for I too believe extreme measures should be taken in extreme cases. So you see, as far as idiosincracy and authority go, I would have had no problem at all terminating you or Revan. Now, you present your case in first person scenarios, stating clearly your dark-sided nature and hunger for power, yet, when contributors answer in a similar manner, that is by taking you in consideration as an in-universe threat, you're suddenly amazed that they "want you dead." HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, What were you expecting, my friend? Not only have you presented facts, as you so gracefully noted, but are taking a first hand approach on the subject. You speak of yourself as a possible tyrant in the Star Wars Universe? Well then, don't be surprised if some possible Jedi are plotting to, either end your tyranic rule, or my very own solution, prevent it from ever happening.