Those are great points, but we're talking more about the hypcrocacy that the people are mad that the US isn't displaying the death tolls next to the plane when their own government doesn't even admit to killing people themselves (in regards to prisoners, civilians, etc.).
The cream of the crop
19th August 2003
Germany may have dabbled in Genocide but Japan created Pokemon, Anime, and Tentacle Rape Porn!
Who are the real monsters here?
well pokemon is perhaps the japanese SS, its very evil, it came and went though, thank god........... and what the hell is tentacle rape porn? :eek:
AegenemmnoNwell pokemon is perhaps the japanese SS, its very evil, it came and went though, thank god........... and what the hell is tentacle rape porn? :eek:
Japan has a fascination with primarily Anime schoolgirls getting raped by tentacles from different monsters. If you go to SA and do an archive search you'll probably find about 500 examples.
The cream of the crop
19th August 2003
holy shit thats fucked up :eek:...............and i have noticed that the Japs have a fantasation with Anime schoolgirls, just plain weird............. what will they think of next, sliced bread!??!?!?!
AegenemmnoNwhat will they think of next, sliced bread!??!?!?!
Maybe they already have! :eek:
Blistex has posed something interesting, and I think that it's something that could only have happened in today's climate of uber-political-correctedness. Those A-bomb survivors feel aggreived that the plane that delivered the payload is being proudly displayed without acknowledging the fact that it DID deliver the only atomic bombs dropped on civilian targets - the ultimate terrorist act. The Japanese military WERE definitely vicious in WWII, but something happened to them between WWI and WWII (In WWI, POWs reported that their 'prisons' were more like holiday camps). That comes down to the difference in culture. The 1930s Japanese were BRED with the ideal that their Emperor WAS God. And they were imbued with a faith in this Emperor that we can't even come close to comprehending. They were also taught that the Chinese were 'sub-human'. It's abhorrent to us to consider that now, but normal for them. So in killing the Chinese at Nanking, they weren't performing inhumane acts. Japan was a nation that desperately wanted to expand and become an Empire (influenced perhaps by the success of the British). This belief then went over to their attitude to Allied soldiers in WWII. When the oil embargoes force Japan's hand and Pearl Harbour was attacked, the attitude towards the Allies was slightly above the attitude towards the Chinese - but not much.
It doesn't answer the question as to why the death-count should be included with the Enola Gay, but it may shed some light on the subject.
Blistex²Don't you find it hypocritical that these survivors are criticizing a nation that used a weapon to kill a few thousand civilians to end a war when their own government killed millions of civilians and has yet to admit that they even did it?
'A few thousand' direct victims: about 110000 death, 130000 injured a couple of years later, due to radiation: +230000 deaths Plus countless babies being born with one eye, limbs missing,... A few thousands?
@Rafterman: You know, America could build more... They build thousands of nukes during the Cold war... After you know HOW to build a nuclear bomb, the building itself isn't really a problem anymore.
@Moldie and others: Eh, the japanese should shut up? Ok, let's look at some other countries.
- The US: killed thousands of Indians, massacered them with modern weapons, they have never apologised for this. - Great-Britain: during the 'Boer-wars' they started using concentration camps... Drove away inhabitants of various countries, such as the Aboriginals. - Spain: Killed millions of Indians living in the new world. 'Lust for gold' - Germany: Well, you know - ...
EVERY country should 'shut up for a few hundred years'.
No, im pretty sure there still just eating rice.
i have to totally agree with spidergoat. every country made mistakes and no country can judge others like the us does at the moment. such a sad world ...
I guess some countries (Germany, Japan and to some extent Great Britain) have the good sense to feel a little embarrassed about what they've done to others. It's not a 'badge of pride' for them.