What were the first Western tanks to knock out tigers? -1 reply

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Artie Bucco

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#1 14 years ago

I think i read somewhere that the first Western tanks knock out were Churchills of the North Irish Horse.

Can anyone confirm this?




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#2 14 years ago

I think lend lease shermans. It took several. But, it may have been the Churchill. I'll look it up, I got a book somewhere prolly that says.




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#3 14 years ago

i should have specified that the Western Allies first encounter with Tigers occured in North Africa if that helps (but I am sure you know). The story of the Churchill seems plausible since I belive the first tiger was knocked out by a British 6 pounder which is the same calibe found in the Churchills gun.




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#4 14 years ago

Does this count?

What about a US M-8 Greyhound (37mm) armored car destroying a Tiger tank? Impossible! Maybe not…

The ability to destroy a Tiger I from other than the front is described in a wartime report from the 7th Armored Division while in Belgium in December of 1944:

While northern and eastern flanks had been heavily engaged, the northeastern section had been rather quiet. The only excitement there had been was when an M8 armored car from "E" Troop destroyed a Tiger tank. The armored car had been in a concealed position at right angles to run along a trail in front of the MLR. As the tank passed the armored car, the M8 slipped out of position and started up the trail behind the Tiger, accelerating in an attempt to close. At the same moment the German tank commander saw the M8, and started traversing his gun to bear on the armored car. It was a race between the Americans who were attempting to close so that their puny 37-mm would be effective in the Tiger’s "Achilles heel" (its thin rear armor), and the Germans who were desperately striving to bring their "88" to bear … Suddenly, the M8 had closed to 25 yards, and quickly pumped in 3 rounds… the lumbering Tiger stopped, shuddered; there was a muffled explosion, followed by flames which bellowed out of the turret and engine ports, after which the armored car returned to its position.




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#5 14 years ago
Artie Buccoi should have specified that the Western Allies first encounter with Tigers occured in North Africa if that helps (but I am sure you know). The story of the Churchill seems plausible since I belive the first tiger was knocked out by a British 6 pounder which is the same calibe found in the Churchills gun.

hmmm maybe true. In fact it was a while before a Tiger was captured. In North Africa 1943, a Churchill fired a shot at a Tiger, the shell struck the gun manlet and was wedged between the turret and the hull. The crew abandoned the tank and so the first Tiger was captured even though the Tiger was in no danger from the Churchills.

You can actually the that tank, no.131 in the Bovington Tank Musuem in England, in working condition. :) :)