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Bad_Motha

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#11 10 years ago

Well it's a slow (951 feet per sec.) weapon but it is highly accurate, but again only up to around 400 meters. Compared to the AK47 which is around 2700 fps and is good for around 600-800 meters. But considering the VSS is dead silent, it has it's uses. Even in the Stalker games you'll notice the bullet of the VAL and VSS move slower to it's target then most weapons in the game. At least they didn't make it into a silent SVD in the game. VSS rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




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#12 10 years ago

I'm a little dubious of the 400m effective range. Last time I checked the effective range for a .223 cartridge was only around 300m. Maximum range was 6-8. But, either way.




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#13 10 years ago

the key word here is effective. effective range does not mean maximum rage. the effective range is also dependant on the weapon in question as well as the round used.

For example from my time in the Australian Army, the F88 Steyr AUG is effective upto 300m Yet the F89 Minimi (the FN Minimi/SAW) is effective upto 400m. both fire the 5.56mm/.223 round




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#14 10 years ago

Which is why I specified the difference. 600 to 800m for a subsonic rifle round sound more like a maximum range then effective range to me.




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#15 10 years ago

Mod Accuracy pour STALKER CS : Besoin de testeurs

French accuracy improvement mod i found..

and just for the record.. the m16 and the aug are accurate up to 600-800 M the soldiers using them in a combat situation are only expected to be effective to 250-300 but more likely to be effective to 150-200m (meters not yards) the round it self is lethal out to over 1000m but very few rifles are made to achieve this. the vss using a very heavy 9x39mm cartridge should be very accurate and very deadly out to 400m and with the built in silencer very quiet. and since it was built for urban warfare its not expected to be used at ranges over 200M.it will fire like a 30-30.. heavy hitting but flies like a football. for trained operators only not for everyone. and the Minimi has a longer effective range just due to the fact it throws a LOT of lead down range, you are bound to hit something ( and in the case of a saw (squad automatic rifle) all you really plan to do is keep their heads down while the squad moves up)




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#16 10 years ago

Machineguns are actually very "accurate" and effective out to quite huge distances - saw a documentary where they explained that excepting for obvious scatter issues caused by the thing jumping about, a .30 cal WW2 vintage tripod mounted machine gun (I'd guess basically a Maxim design) is accurate / effective out to way beyond what the operator can see properly. They explained how spotters were used sometimes to put fire down on a specific point from ranges boyond where the gunners themselves could see what was happening. And the old M2 .50 cal was known to be SO basically accurate in the hands of a skilled operator popping off single or couplets of rounds that it prompted development of the sniper rifles based on that round.




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#17 10 years ago

oh dear lord more gun experts that know jack!




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#18 10 years ago
StarkeRealm;4574163Actually the SIG 550 should have identical damage to the Enfield and the ZM300... since they're all firing 5.56. Though the 550 and the AK should be far and away the most reliable.

NO! given the 11.5 inch barrel of the 300 and the 20.8 inch of the sig. the sig packs more power and accuracy. and in stalker would make it the most powerfull 5.56.




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#19 10 years ago

when you are talking a WW2 tripod mounted .30 cal (30-06/7.62 x63mm machine gun ( weighing 40+ lbs) with a cycle rate of 400 rpm vs a modern saw (totally different weapons) that fires 5.56 x 45 mm at a cycle rate of 750-1000 rpm weighing 15 lbs one is a base mounted weapon that has enough inertia that it will move very little and many have liquid cooled barrels the other weighs less than half and is hand held lets not even talk the differences between the ammunition (which is HUGE) we could talk about barrels and how metal changes as it heats up or the beating the operator takes with such a machine gun on the shoulder and just how well he can hold it on target after the first 2 shots ( a huge problem with all automatic rifles.) the 50cal is great at distance just like any full powered rifle. its a 1/4 lb of lead going like a foot ball... much like the 9x39 but untill the military sized the guns down, most sniper rifles where adapted personal arms.. ie m1 garand and m14 in wwII and after for the us as for how accurate they are.. putting lead into a 1 meter MOA vs 1.5cm MOA for sniper rifles at 100 meters. which is more effective? depends how many people are bringing your ammo up for you, or how many targets you are shooting at.

the are more different specialists in the military now than there are different types of ice cream..

nutz




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#20 10 years ago
nutpantz;4576270when you are talking a WW2 tripod mounted .30 cal (30-06/7.62 x63mm machine gun ( weighing 40+ lbs) with a cycle rate of 400 rpm vs a modern saw (totally different weapons) that fires 5.56 x 45 mm at a cycle rate of 750-1000 rpm weighing 15 lbs one is a base mounted weapon that has enough inertia that it will move very little and many have liquid cooled barrels the other weighs less than half and is hand held lets not even talk the differences between the ammunition (which is HUGE) we could talk about barrels and how metal changes as it heats up or the beating the operator takes with such a machine gun on the shoulder and just how well he can hold it on target after the first 2 shots ( a huge problem with all automatic rifles.) the 50cal is great at distance just like any full powered rifle. its a 1/4 lb of lead going like a foot ball... much like the 9x39 but untill the military sized the guns down, most sniper rifles where adapted personal arms.. ie m1 garand and m14 in wwII and after for the us as for how accurate they are.. putting lead into a 1 meter MOA vs 1.5cm MOA for sniper rifles at 100 meters. which is more effective? depends how many people are bringing your ammo up for you, or how many targets you are shooting at. the are more different specialists in the military now than there are different types of ice cream.. nutz

this is what happens when a barrel is heated to the extreme. YouTube - How NOT to fire a 50 Cal Machine Gun