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#1 11 years ago

I have not been able to beat Stalker ever since the first day it came out since i have been restarting too many times because of overmodding and random stuff. Now, I came back from Yantar and unfortunatly have to restart again. This is because random people in the bar map hate me, most of the duty there does, random loners, and everyone in the bar. I NEED to know how to adjust some files or download something to make them all neutral or friends again. I am not restarting for the millionth time. please. I will attach pictures of the secret room in the bar as a payoff after i get help




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#2 11 years ago
manslauter;3836459...overmodding and random stuff. I am not restarting for the millionth time.

You've overmodded and tried to solve it via restarting, but have you ever thoroughly tested the game WITHOUT any mods installed? Most mods that cause such problems use the Sanex A-Life mod, that may likely be your biggest obstacle. There are a few cases where the randomization of A-Life itself in vanilla STALKER can cause AI anomalies, in the figurative sense (packs of dogs interupting raids, etc), though it is much more rare than with mods. I hate to say it but deleting all mods you currently have installed and starting a fresh game with no mods or one that does not change the AI might be the only way to see if your game files are OK. If you suspect they're not, a reinstall of the game could be in order. When I suspected such a thing after lots of saving and loading crashes with mods, I found deleting the mods I was using and trying ones without AI changes allowed me to continue without reinstallation. I HAVE found though, that even the stable ABC mod crashed periodically, usually during saving or loading, but sometimes elsewhere. It is possible perhaps that I do have slight game file corruption lingering from prior mods. Ever since trying AliVe/Redux, then Faiakes 2.2 and 2.3 I have had intermittent crashes when playing with mods, though not nearly as bad with ABC. What made me think it was the mods though is having played the game extensively without mods after the ones I had crashes with, and no problems arose. I would try uninstalling all mods and play through the ENTIRE game before trying to fix anything currently installed to confirm that everything works OK in vanilla STALKER. It's the only way to be sure you have no file corruption. If you are dilligent at piggy backing saves via alternate quick and manual ones, I find you can usually overcome even stubborn intermittent crashing though. You can also quite often overcome AI anomalies by making lots of manual saves before interacting with factions, providing in-game restart points. Typically when you have severe AI related problems though it snowballls on you and eventually you encounter something that won't allow you to complete the game. For me that has always come in the form of crashes. For some it's AI that is too hard to fight through. There are some trainers for the game where you can activate invulnerabilty and even invisibilty, but that is a bogus way to continue on unless you use it only for one brief part of the game where you're surrounded by numerous hostile factions. Keep in mind with most modders, showing off their mod is a very competitive thing. Many will boast of stability and test it thoroughly, but that is no gaurantee they have tested on a system similar to yours and you will have no problems. There is also the fact that STALKER is a very hard game to test for given the many ways the AI can behave.




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#3 11 years ago

no no, sorry to make u type all this stuff, but i wasnt really that clear. by restarting i mean starting a new game with a whole new set of mods. i never used mod compilations, i compiled them myself. the reason why theyr pissed at me is because during this game i went on a random rampage at the bar area, killing random ppl while testing out my grenade launchers on my rifles. but when i went to the bar after all that the bar ppl were all friendles, the only angry ppl were the duty boss, the guards guarding the entrance to the forbidden duty area, and all the other behind in that area. really weird stuff. then i went to yantar, did my mission there. And i mean, who could i have killed at that time? on the way to yantar there is only mercs, and at yantar there is only zombies and snorks. but for some reason i get back and all the people at the bar are mad at me. makes no damn sence. i didnt even install any ai mods.




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#4 11 years ago

the whole problem is with how after yantar all the people IN the actual bar started hating me not letting me continue with the campaign. these are shot of inside the bar sspavelsokov08030716590cl5.jpg Shot at 2007-08-03 inside the secret room, il post better pics without enemies later sspavelsokov08030717000rp4.jpg Shot at 2007-08-03 and this is what i did early in the game that i suspect caused this: sspavelsokov07110716253gf0.jpg Shot at 2007-08-03 sspavelsokov07110716262po0.jpg Shot at 2007-08-03 ya i know its pretty bad, but after i did this only the duty boss and the guards guarding him were pissed off, the bar staff was fine with me. so this doesnt make all the sence.




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#5 11 years ago

I don't think what I typed was all wasted or from a misunderstanding. Whether you make you own mods or play those of others doesn't matter as much as your never have been able to play it all the way through. Like I said, if you are having that many problems that you still can't finish the game after so many tries I think it's time to test out the stock game by playing all the way through with no mods. It sounds to me like you've done your modding via trial and error and had lots of errors because of it. You might have to actually break down and just use mods made by others, though as I said, the ones wiothout AI changes will be more stable. You can always make minor changes to them instead of entirely making your own mods.




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#6 11 years ago

no no, i wasnt making my own mods, im not a modder. i was downloading random mods and making my own compilation. 95% of my changes are cosmetic though, mostly skins and crap. weight mod, trader mod, a few other mods,etc. SO IS THERE ANY WAY TO EDIT THE FILES TO MAKE EM FRIENDLY OR DOWNLOAD ANY MOD OR ANYTHING?




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#7 11 years ago

Like I tried to say, your wanting to mod via trial and error is likely what got you into this situation. Some of the biggest mods are actually compilations rather than original work. You can easily get into as much trouble script wise from combining mods that don't work well together as you can from doing make shift mod work yourself. I suggest when you want to combine mods you first ask the authors if it's been tested that way before taking such a chance. I have no idea what files you need edit to turn enemy status to neutral, but I have seen it mentioned. You should be aware though that messing with the AI is best done by experienced moddders.;) Good luck