Someone really needs to make a decent MP5 model -1 reply

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MattyDienhoff

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#1 10 years ago

Frankly I'm astonished no one's made a replacement model for the MP5 (a.k.a. 'Viper 5') in STALKER. Not only does it look bad (in my opinion), it's unrealistic. The 'Viper 5' is in fact the HK54, an early 1960s prototype of the MP5. The idea that even a few of these would have survived until 2012 and found their way to Ukraine is far-fetched, but hundreds? It should be replaced with either an MP5A3 or an MP5-N.




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#2 10 years ago

The guys at fpsbanana.com haven't done any re-models for the weapons yet, only reskins.

But i agree with you, the viper is quite horrible and i'd kill for an Mp5sd6, but. it is an mp5




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#3 10 years ago
MattyDienhoff;4497805Frankly I'm astonished no one's made a replacement model for the MP5 (a.k.a. 'Viper 5') in STALKER. Not only does it look bad (in my opinion), it's unrealistic. The 'Viper 5' is in fact the HK54, an early 1960s prototype of the MP5. The idea that even a few of these would have survived until 2012 and found their way to Ukraine is far-fetched, but hundreds? It should be replaced with either an MP5A3 or an MP5-N.

I agree that some models can be improved upon however i must say this. Instead of sounding appalled at the community you are much better off trying to do it yourself and receive help from experienced modders/modelers then them caving in and doing it for you.




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#4 10 years ago

I said I'm 'astonished', not 'appalled' (the two are quite different). I'm astonished, not because I'm condescending (as in "people haven't made what I want") but because there are mods out there like Arsenal that adds scores of new weapons (and replaces many existing ones) - many of which are rare or obscure (like the PPD-40, for example), and yet they pay no mind to the MP5 which is arguably the most significant SMG in recent history. It's that irony - the fact that the community has produced everything from the Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 to the FAMAS, but have hardly touched on the far more important MP5 - that astonishes me. It just seems like a no-brainer to me to improve the common, important guns first, especially when one is so sorely lacking as the "Viper 5" is.

And don't play the DIY card, if I had the skills I would do it myself, but I'm not a modeller and, frankly, I have little interest in developing such a skill as I'd rarely have the time or interest to use it. Discussion is still productive.




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#5 10 years ago

Not everyone shares your point of view. It would seem more people want new weapons, than want improvements made to the already existing ones. Personally I'm not bothered, but I have no experience with weapons of any kind, so I can remain blissfully ignorant.

The LR300 was redon. I'm sure someone will get to the Mp5 when they're ready.




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#6 10 years ago

I'd rather have better looking current weapons then new ones... i'm a big fan of the L85 and the Mp5, and its a shame to see their models are terrible. not to mention their skins and animations.

But you gotta remember one thing OP. The Mp5 is a CQB weapon, its long range skills fail. so it might be a while before we see anything except new skins for it.




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#7 10 years ago

MattyDienhoff;4498521I said I'm 'astonished', not 'appalled' (the two are quite different). I'm astonished, not because I'm condescending (as in "people haven't made what I want") but because there are mods out there like Arsenal that adds scores of new weapons (and replaces many existing ones) - many of which are rare or obscure (like the PPD-40, for example), and yet they pay no mind to the MP5 which is arguably the most significant SMG in recent history. It's that irony - the fact that the community has produced everything from the Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 to the FAMAS, but have hardly touched on the far more important MP5 - that astonishes me. It just seems like a no-brainer to me to improve the common, important guns first, especially when one is so sorely lacking as the "Viper 5" is.

And don't play the DIY card, if I had the skills I would do it myself, but I'm not a modeller and, frankly, I have little interest in developing such a skill as I'd rarely have the time or interest to use it. Discussion is still productive.

I said "sounded appalled" i didnt reiterate what you've said, thats just how i felt you came off. However i didnt say i didnt agree with you. Personally it dosent bother me, i hold a weapon, it shoots and kills. good enough for me =p but i know how it bugs you, my best bud is a gun nut and everything has to be perfect in terms of guns for him so he constantly tells me how it should be and i just sit there and nod while sipping a beer haha

And i dont "play the DIY card" frankly i dont care what you do and im sure you feel the same way about me :nodding: you dont need to have a skill that HAS to be used, im pretty good at programing and its what i do, yet i can build a house from scratch, dosent mean ill be building one any time soon lolz. You can never have too much knowledge however you can always not have enough time




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#8 10 years ago
Supernatur4L;4498779I said "sounded appalled" i didnt reiterate what you've said, thats just how i felt you came off. However i didnt say i didnt agree with you.

Fair enough, no hard feelings. I'm sorry I came across that way, I wasn't trying to. :)

But you gotta remember one thing OP. The Mp5 is a CQB weapon, its long range skills fail. so it might be a while before we see anything except new skins for it.

I don't see what difference it's range suitability makes...?

The LR300 was redon. I'm sure someone will get to the Mp5 when they're ready.

You mean the new LR300 in Oblivion Lost? That is a beautiful weapon. A lot better than the old one.

Not everyone shares your point of view. It would seem more people want new weapons, than want improvements made to the already existing ones.

Yeah, I know, most people want new guns. But I feel that fixing the flaws in the existing weapons is far more important than scattering a few rare new guns around the landscape - simply because you spend so much time using the boring mainstays one way or the other. The MP5 is so common you'd have to go out of your way to avoid using it, and the more you use a weapon the more apparent it's flaws become.




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#9 10 years ago

I totally agree with you there, the MP5 should be remodeled. But let's face it the mp5 should not be disregarded its very useful in the beginning of the game If you play the vanilla and even later on and when you find the walter P99. You can use the same ammo type. It would definitely be nice to see some MP5 variants in the zone.(hint)

off-topic I know... a lot of people will argue once you got a rifle why the hell use a pistol or even carry. One first of all into zone there is a lot more munition for the pistols well in the beginning at least and besides I like to carry a primary and secondary weapon. Marines would say that the pistol is only suited to fight your way back to you rifle in case you lose it. So maybe it's quite useful after all:)

on-topic so yes, I find that the MP5 should be remade.




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#10 10 years ago

I used the MP5 in the beginning, even over the AK as the ammo was easier to obtain and didnt cost so damn much, and the weapon hardly ever jammed on me.

I wish there would be remodels of it *drools*




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