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Manzi

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#1 14 years ago

I got to take a moment and express a rant I have about Punkbuster. I want to say first I believe completely that there needs to be a system in place to catch the cheaters that plague our public servers and take the fun out of honest games. There are however, those of us that like to play, shall I say "dishonest" games in our own private passworded servers or when the message is on the front door in any other non Punkbuster server. It can be fun and throw a little spice into the game to use cheats when everyone in the server is using them. I know, I know, but there are those who can't keep limited to those servers. Therefore there must be a system in place to catch those people. I guess what icon_censored.gif me off is that punkbuster doesn't discriminate when it comes to the cheat files, it will ban you and put you on the master list :mad: just for having the files in you folder and not in use. I had no idea about this ( that will teach me read the user agreement :deal: instead of just browse it :) ) and as such my name is on the list. I tried emailing the admin and they of course didn't care, got lumped with the masses so to speak. Again, let me say I fully agree with what Punkbuster is trying to do but I think they ought to limit banning people to the one's that are blatenley using the cheats in an open public, punkbuster enabled server and not persecute, dare I say, "honest cheaters", who have the files in their game folder, THAT ARE NOT IN USE, and want to have a little change in their game now and then. I have never cared for the guilt by association theroy. Anyway, I thought I'd take your advise and use your forum to gripe for a moment. Have a great day all :D !!!




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#2 14 years ago

I couldn't say it better myself. :cool:

My hat is off to you man. I'm with you on this. Cheers m8 :beer:




Sir Paul

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#3 14 years ago
CmytheI had no idea about this ( that will teach me read the user agreement :deal: instead of just browse it :) )
who have the files in their game folder, THAT ARE NOT IN USE,

Put this down to expirence then, how is punkbuster to know if you are or are not using these files..You got caught with bad files...PB did its job simple as that :nodding:




Dark Saint

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#4 14 years ago

the md5 tool finds any cheat files you have. whether in use or not. if you have them ..how are we as server admins to know if you are using them or not. or whether you have them or not? we don't ....that is why pb is in place...there shouldn't be any discrimination ..if you are using on a cheat on a non pb server ...ok ...but you know what ..take it out and put it anywhere else. if you need to use a cheat to spice up your game. then you weren't a good player to begin with...cause you must not get enough challenge out of playing good players. you got what you deserved. not only did you cheat on a non pb server, but you admit to using them. the rant should be labled ..." i have a rant about myself ". i don't mean it to be a jerk. but using the cheats and then getting mad when you get caught ? come on mate.really.




Manzi

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#5 14 years ago
MerrickDSthe md5 tool finds any cheat files you have. whether in use or not. if you have them ..how are we as server admins to know if you are using them or not. or whether you have them or not? we don't ....that is why pb is in place...there shouldn't be any discrimination ..if you are using on a cheat on a non pb server ...ok ...but you know what ..take it out and put it anywhere else. if you need to use a cheat to spice up your game. then you weren't a good player to begin with...cause you must not get enough challenge out of playing good players. you got what you deserved. not only did you cheat on a non pb server, but you admit to using them. the rant should be labled ..." i have a rant about myself ". i don't mean it to be a jerk. but using the cheats and then getting mad when you get caught ? come on mate.really.

You are absolutely correct merrick, I do admit to cheating on a non PB server and having cheat files and using them. I don't want to sound like a jerk either but apparently you missed the part about only using them in passworded games and servers that label that it's a cheat game right on the front door before you enter. I didn't get caught using them, I got caught with them in my possesion, and I know I know people get caught with things in their possession everyday and claim "it's not mine" or "I wasn't going to use it". :D However, point taken about not knowing as server admins, but I figured that the PB program would be able to tell if the file is in use or not, just as windows or any other simple diagnostic program can do. As I said, I should have read the agreement about having them in the folder, my screw up. I would have pulled them out and put them in a seperate folder had I read it. Just because we like to play a variation on the game doesn't make us bad players, we all have no trouble holding our own in any regular game. I love the challange of playing against other good players. These two sayings come to mind here about why we play with variations of the game, Variety is the spice of life and as with really good sex, it's sometimes fun to try new things :naughty: Thanks for your comment Merric and Happy Gaming!!




Dark Saint

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#6 14 years ago

yeah it isn't the way of teh world to undertsand all that happens. But then you do undertsand what i am saying and that is good. yeah maybe (maybe big maybe) there should be a proggy that can tell what/when a cheat is working. But then that is what pb does. it isn't perfect. it doesn't catch every cheat (yet). But that is what it does, it telles if somebody has a cheat in use on teh most basic of levels. you had cheats in a folder. the md5 saw them. and pb barred ya. but you weren't using them. i can see how that could be frustrating. but to make an exception to one person who seems cool ( your admittance of using them and your forhright nature makes you seem ok ) would be to relax the rules placement, and pb stature upon which it works. PREVENTION is a must. so again whether you were using or not ( this isn't just for you it is for anybody caught) PB does it's job. we have caught 5 botters in the past three months because we know what to look for. and the md5 tool has caught ohhh so many more. one botter was adjusting the settings on his bot and when he did , pb caught him...his ratio ? 45/3 team dm ..8 players on the server. some people are downright dumb. it just goes to show, " Variety is the spice of life" just don't bring your spice to my house. LOL good chat Cmythe. it is nice to know there are some people who can debate the cheat issue and not go off teh deep end.




anarchyxf36

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#7 13 years ago

personally, pb does not do it's job at all i remember reading somewhere that a clan did a test using cheats on a pb server... welp needless to say the stupid thing only kicked like 3 out of about 20 ppl. I mean it P**** me off to no F@*!G END that ppl cheat, one thing i ask is why, why i tell you is cause these no good f*#^&$G panzees suck A%$ and can't take an A!@ Kicking in the game so they have to cheat to be better, if you want to do it fine! just do it in single player where the comp ai don't get offended by it. But don't AND I REPEAT DON'T COME INTO THE SERVERS AND F#&$%^G SCREW UP OUR GAMES AND INFEST OUR SERVERS WITH YOUR WHINY LITTLE NO GOOD CHEATING A#@ES, AND WHEN YOUR CAUGHT AND KICKED DON'T P*** B%H MOAN AND WHINE ABOUT IT CAUSE YOUR THE GUILTY ONE NOT US... truthfully i for one think that they should be banned from online play altogether but thats just my opinion, and another thing about it is that if they do get kicked for cheating, all they do is just change their screen name reenter a server and play with the F^#&*%G CHEATS ON AGAIN!!!!!!! Honestly in my opinion, EVERYONE WHO CHEATS IS LOWER THEN WHALE S@$T




Dark Saint

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#8 13 years ago

the issue that i have is people that complain that they were banned, and then admit to having the files on their systems. It shouldn't matter if you have them and didn't use them here or there......you have them. you used them... if you used them on a non pb server or not....you have them on your system and the securities that pb uses, catches you ( not you in particular), you get angry. and pb is not perfect ......but you know what ? if your friend robs a house of some stuff...and doesn't get caught .... are you going to be mad when you do it , and get caught ? come on .......honestly now. It is stealing as much as it is cheating...you are stealing the fun from teh people who want to play an honest game. so if you cheat even once and don't get caught ..you are as bad as the ones who do it constantly. just because 3 out of twenty people were caught, does it make it right >? of course it doesn't. and until somebody makes a better system. It is the best we got. so we do what we can to elaborate on catching cheaters.




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#9 13 years ago

I think what Merrick is trying to say is DON'T CHEAT. There's no point in doing it. Punkbuster only does what it is supposed to do.... that is, to eliminate cheating Punk @** bi***** ! :mad: Sorry about that, I have a strong hate for cheaters.




Shai'tan

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#10 13 years ago

an addition to this rant is.. while i was still playing ravenshield, i downloaded sof to try it out, and loved it, so i bought it, because its $19.95, not a big deal. but being that i didnt understand the laws of punkbuster at the time, my guid was recorded, and now i still cannot get into certain servers, ie. the SeeYaX server, and DrumGods because of this, so I am plagued to play with ___ing cheaters until I buy my new box.




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