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10th March 2008
Hi ive got Gmax 1.2 and i was wondering if any one knew where i can find a sod importer/exporter or a ms3d importer/exporter?
You won't find one (importer) on "armada2.filefront". Check your PM.
Some people don't even remember what they write in these posts. And this is going to be the last time i ever try to help someone with this...
I'm not crazy... Not always
16th May 2005
No converters are avalible for GMax, the only exporters avalible are for 3ds max, ms3d and ultimate Unwrap 3d as far as I am aware.
And honestly people, there's a difference between someone asking for help and a relentless flame war over copyrights and whatever, there's no need to act silly, the guy's asking an innocent question.
Well, he does not want the plugin for MS3D, even though it says right there in his post. And no one's acting silly, not me. Cheif Chainsaw, man, are you acting silly ? Is that you.. ?
6th February 2005
Far from being a taboo subject this is a perfect example of how the way modellers want the importer distribution to work.
At this stage, people know who USS_Miranda is, and have reasonable confidence he's not going to pirate models so the first person with the importer offered it to him.
Freyr, someone needs to upload the importer for MS3D, on armada files. Because the current plugin cannot import, not even stock models, it only exports .sod. Or is that against the rules ?
Because there is another game of the same genre, also hosted by filefront that can import stock .sod models. I only say this because, it can be very difficult to mod for A2 (for a beginner), when you cannot see the hardpoint structure in detail, and have to follow tutorials with the trial and error method. This is just a suggestion. :)
6th February 2005
Its not against any rules per se.
The argument from modellers is that they don't want people to be able to import non stock models to protect their work. Obviously, a modding site is comprised of the people visiting it, and were we to release a functional importer then a number of modellers have stated that they would withdraw their work from the community. That wouldn't be good for anybody.
I see their point of view, however I believe that it is seriously flawed as it is already trivial to import a model using one of several methods that are both widely known and impossible to prevent. In addition, every other aspect of A2 such as textual modding of the ODF, AI, techtrees and sprites has failed to produce massive widespread plagiarism despite being accessible to edit directly with a text editor.
Nor do you see it as a problem with textures, which is a point that I can speak on with some authority, as I am not aware of anybody attempting to pass my work off as theirs for as long as the Upgrade Project has been running.
Obviously, there is some risk of plagiarism inherent whenever you publish work publicly, however as I think its quite evident we do take action against anybody that we suspect of plagiarism, and I don't see any logical reason to see why models should require any further protection that everything else.
Especially when the "protection" in question is akin to a securely locked door in the middle of a field, which is evident to anybody that has spent a few minutes reading up on the situation. Worse, this "protection" only inconveniences people that follow the rules.
Still, that's the situation at the moment, and it shows no signs of changing at any point in the near future as the current status quo is how the modellers want things. I do think that the people demanding this situation have a responsibility to make sufficient material and documentation available to ease the effect on people abiding by the rules, but affected by this. That, or they should reconsider why they are demanding this situation.
But hey, that's my 2 pence on this.
Was just trying to get a laugh in to hopefully avert any tenseness, as I have sat on the edge of "the Great Importer Debate" 3 times over on a Yahoo Armada II group a friend of mine runs and it got NASTY, to a point where some people no longer speak to each other. Was just hoping to avoid that.