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Flash525

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#1 9 years ago

I'll keep this real short, simple, sweet direct and to the point. The Ferengi Scavenger (aka Marauder) pops onto the game map at random, and steels your derelict ships. To date, does anyone know whether it is possible to have more than one ship type do this? That being, you could have say... A Ferengi Marauder, and Marquis vessel of some kind, doing the same thing; popping onto the map at random, and taking your derelict ships away from you. In addition to that... The Borg. They use transwarp portals (usually at will). Would it be possible (to anyones knowledge) to have a Sphere (for arguments sake) being the salvage ship, but to come through a transwarp portal at random placements on the map, instead of coming in from a side? ...that is all.




StarBlade

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#2 9 years ago

Everything you're describing is hard-coded. The AI uses one ship for cargo (zfercarg) and one for salvage (zferscav). They appear on the map from the edge, only, and they don't use any other weapons even if fired upon. More than one type of ship and it'll still default to the hard-coded ones. I've done it before where I've had a heavily armed Orion dreadnought as the "zferscav" ship-- they'll fire upon the ship and destroy it, then go home. Slowly. It was more annoyance than innovation.

You might be able to get the Borg to work as a salvage race-- get them to assimilate the vessel, but the assimilated ship's behaviour from that point on is an open question, as is whether or not it'll crash the game. If I had to guess, though, the "norace" assimilated vessel would probably behave like the summoned Species 8472 ships. But that's assuming that Borg ship assimilates, instead of destroys, the derelict ship.

I think the subject deserves more experimentation than I've ever devoted to the matter, mostly because I'm usually too busy defending my post to give my full attention to what the zferscav is doing....

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HMS Frontier

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#3 9 years ago

In regards to the Borg you could try having some small stations scattered around the map that use the Cardassion Species 8472 ship portal thing as there only weapon then set the portal weapon to bring a modified Borg sphere armed only with a holding beam then when you approach the station it would open a transwarp gate, a sphere would come through and attept to assimmlate you. I know its not what your looking for but that's the only thing I can think of.




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#4 9 years ago
HMS Frontier;4917209In regards to the Borg you could try having some small stations scattered around the map that use the Cardassion Species 8472 ship portal thing as there only weapon then set the portal weapon to bring a modified Borg sphere armed only with a holding beam then when you approach the station it would open a transwarp gate, a sphere would come through and attept to assimmlate you. I know its not what your looking for but that's the only thing I can think of.

Going on from this, couldn't the station be set to be 'invisible' (no geometry in the SOD or something) and then anyone not familiar with the map would see a Borg vessel just transwarp in. No idea if it'd work, I'm no coder :uhm:




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#5 9 years ago

HMS Frontier: it wouldn't work since those portals would not be generated by ships becoming derelict. What's more, neither of the placeholder races "norace" or "ferengi" will fire at anyone, even in self-defense. So they probably won't fire the quantum singularity producing weapon the Cardassians use, either.

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Majestic-MSFC

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#6 9 years ago

Just duplicate the odf's of the Ferengi, make a new odf with them say zfercarg2 and zferscav2 and place them in the map (at the boarders) next to the Ferengi vessels. Quite simple really.

As for the Borg idea, don't think what you want for the could be done, but others may have some ideas there for you.




HMS Frontier

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#7 9 years ago

the Starfleet Kid;4917317HMS Frontier: it wouldn't work since those portals would not be generated by ships becoming derelict.[/QUOTE] No but at they would activate upon a normal ship getting near I know that's not excatily what he wants but its a start

[QUOTE=the Starfleet Kid;4917317]What's more, neither of the placeholder races "norace" or "ferengi" will fire at anyone, even in self-defense. So they probably won't fire the quantum singularity producing weapon the Cardassians use, either.

No but you could set it to Borg and a normally unused team say 8, not sure about instant action but it should work in single player