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Curtis_R

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#1 11 years ago

I was curious as to why you can view any sod in assimiview but not in the more advanced MS3D? It gives you the "Sorry I took your money,but still cant let you view any sod ya want." garbage..is there or will there EVER be a PROPER importer/exporter set for this software that isnt RESTRICTED?

the way it is working now..no wonder many skip it over in favor of the less advanced but more useable FREE assimiview.




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#2 11 years ago

You can view stock sods but not sods done by others. Its to stop people claiming others work as their own.

Plus MS3D is better than assimview, in MS3D you can actually create models and hardpoint them, in assimview you can't, so I choose MS3D over assimview any day.




Adam_Atlantian

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#3 11 years ago

I understand why the importer was made the way it was but for people, like me, who have A1 it gets annoying when you see a sweet ship but you cant use it cause it's SOD is for A2. Yet A1 SODs work in either game. It would be nice to be able to convert from A2 to A1 through MS3D is all i'm saying.




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#4 11 years ago

i would like the oppurtunity to be able to view..not nessacarily edit..but view any sod,study how its made,etc..within ms3d.and also be able to convert back and forth between the two games as well.

simple conversion and ability to view.thats not asking much.




ebonweaver

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#5 11 years ago
Majest;3469079You can view stock sods but not sods done by others.

You can view SOME stock sods, which further adds to the frustration I have with ms3d. Several of the stock sod files will not open because it says there is a lighting error, which obviously isn't true. It seems the plugin has issues, but I haven't found another that works. It seems clear someone could write a plugin that would work with all sod files, but sadly no one has. Wish I had the skill to do so.

I wrote to the person who made the sod plugin asking why it fails to open some stock sods and so forth, but got no reply. Could just be the project is to old for them to care anymore.




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#6 11 years ago
ebonweaver;3470097It seems clear someone could write a plugin that would work with all sod files, but sadly no one has. Wish I had the skill to do so.

If we are talking about MS3D there is a non stock SOD Importer, but it isnt open for the public's use, it is open to modder's who have permission to use it, which arent very many, although, that is what i use. As Major Payne has said many times, and will probably say when he see's this. ;)




ebonweaver

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#7 11 years ago
Gavin1701;3470131If we are talking about MS3D there is a non stock SOD Importer, but it isnt open for the public's use, it is open to modder's who have permission to use it, which arent very many, although, that is what i use.

Well I'm not sure what all that means. Why is it not available for public download? How do you get permission to get and use it?

I've also seen reference to a tool called assimview, but I can't locate that anywhere either. Any insights there?




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#8 11 years ago
ebonweaver;3470203Well I'm not sure what all that means.[/quote] It means that the importer is programmed to open all types of .sod files.
ebonweaver;3470203Why is it not available for public download?
Because it may be used for model theft, and thats something we want to prevent. [quote=ebonweaver;3470203]How do you get permission to get and use it?

You dont, best bet is not to ask about it.




ebonweaver

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#9 11 years ago
Gavin1701;3470236 You dont, best bet is not to ask about it.

They why did you even mention it? I mean really, this seems like a very elitist thing considering the game is so old it doesn't even run on today's machines without turning down their acceleration. All I'm looking to do is tweak an old dead game for my personal enjoyment.

Let's try this another way then. Is there a tool, available to the public, that will let you view any armada 1 sod file and easily view the hardpoints? Adding or moving them would be a bonus, but that's it. I'm not looking to edit models, make new ones, change texture mapping, or any of that, just see where the hard points are to edit the weapons fire locations in the odf. Viewing the model in wireframe would be nice too so I could fix some targeting displays. Milkshape is great for these viewing needs, but only for about 2/3 of the stock sod files, it can't open anything else.




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#10 11 years ago

ebonweaver;3470273They why did you even mention it? I mean really, this seems like a very elitist thing[/quote] I mentioned it because i didnt want to conversation to lead to someone asking for it.

ebonweaver;3470273considering the game is so old it doesn't even run on today's machines without turning down their acceleration.
Thats not entirely true. [quote=ebonweaver;3470273]All I'm looking to do is tweak an old dead game for my personal enjoyment.

Armada 2 isnt a dead game, not by a long shot, it still has many mods waiting to be released.