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#1 9 years ago

I know that in previous years there have been people like me that did not know that moding even existed but know about computers and they have asked for help. I am just wondering if there is some sort of guide that anyone has written that I might be able to view to learn.

I added my first ship to the game the other day, after countless trys, and I was proud of myself but then I tried to add another by doing the same thing and it did not work. I thought all that was necessary was to replace all of the files that are provided in the download and you are done, but it did not work. Is there some simple step that I am missing?

Step by step what I did:

I downloaded a mod that would allow you to create a fusion fusion cube, which I thought was crazy. So, I unzipped it to a created folder and went to every folder in the Armada 2 game directory and replaced each folder by draging the new folder to the intended directory and clicking yes to replace. I then restarted the computer and started the game and instant action was exactly the same.




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#2 9 years ago

www.starbase34.net - WELCOME TO STARBASE 34

Try "Adding a Ship to the Game". You'll note that the techtree and "gui_global" sprite entry sections are critical parts of getting the ship in-game. If you overwrite them at any point, you'd better have backups or you'll have to rewrite the whole thing.

We set up Starbase 34 to help folks like yourself get into modding. It's not the only tutorial (there are quite a few on the A2Files site among other places) but it is one I can guarantee since I wrote it. :) Hopefully this proves to be helpful. :D

Welcome to the forums.

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#3 9 years ago

Avoid auto installers and coping a replacing files when adding ships and the like to the game. Some modders set these mods up for complete newbies and while they might add that particular ship or station they will probably over write everything else you have done.




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#4 9 years ago

Westworld's Big Book of Modding explained a lot of things, even after I'd become a proficient modder.

It really does sound like you're not adding to the techtree. Also, restarting your computer shouldn't be necessary.




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#5 9 years ago

Welcome to the community. :)

A lot of mods can be added by just unzipping them, but they will then overwrite any other mods you have installed by doing it. A lot more just need a couple of lines changing in other files to make them work properly. As the Kid has already said Starbase 34 offers a lot of very good tutorials and i'd recommend those quite strongly as they cover editing pretty much everything in very beginner friendly fashoin.

Other than that, Thunderfoot wrote this tutorial for making small modifications:-

Minor Mod Tutorial, Star Trek: Armada 2 Downloads, Star Trek: Armada 2 Tutorials

And this is the Westworld's Big Book Of Modding (ie, the BBOM) which is an ancient book written by one of the first modders to mod A2. It contains most of the information you'd want to know, even if some people do find parts very difficult to follow.

Westworld's Big Book Of Modding, Star Trek: Armada 2 Downloads, Star Trek: Armada 2 Tutorials

If your still having trouble after you've read through these just say where your having trouble and we can probably point you towards something that'll help more.




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#6 9 years ago

It would be really cool if there was a program written that could just insert ships into the game for you, rewriting the techtree and moving the right file types to the right folders. I dont see how thats possible though lol




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#7 9 years ago
Intrepid781;4975143It would be really cool if there was a program written that could just insert ships into the game for you, rewriting the techtree and moving the right file types to the right folders. I dont see how thats possible though lol

It's not actually that far fetched, although it wouldn't be perfect. After all, we've got things like STATE which aren't a million miles off doing that.




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#8 9 years ago

It'd prove to be a vicious cycle, though-- then those who don't know how to mod will complain about the problems with the program that's supposed to do it all for them. The simpler it promises to be, the harder it'll be for someone (or quite a few someones) to apply and actually use. And while I can offer fairly detailed support with the old cut-and-paste install method, including a mod installer into the mix still probably won't help those who don't know how to put two mods together.

It's like GPS. Sure, I like the comfort of knowing that I can press some buttons and it'll tell me where to go. But if I want to get there a second, or third, time, I'd be much better off using a map and my own memory of the route. Some prefer the comfort of the "push a button and there you go" way of life. Not me. It's why I love Trek-- to explore, to discover, to boldly go places this man has never gone before.... as Picard said, "living is making choices".

However, that being said --and I know I rely on their precedents a lot-- Bridge Commander has mod packagers and programs that will do that sort of thing automatically for you. As long as modders are still including a good ol'-fashioned .ZIP and installation instructions as detailed as Dan's or FahreS', I'll be using their stuff. For me, auto-installers --or mod installing programs-- are what transporter technology was to Dr. McCoy: despite the promises and advancement in what can be done, it's the fear of what they could do that motivates me more.

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#9 9 years ago

Thanks! I don't think that I could have received a better answer. Within hours I was moding away, at an amateur level.

The problem was in the sharing options for DA** Vista!

and thanks to the people that set up starbase34.net!