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jbgestl

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#1 16 years ago

I like to think that in Kirk's Time (the Series, not the Movies) They didn't really think in Galactic terms on an everyday basis. Although the Galactic Quadrants existed, they also divided each sector into 4 quadrants. Those were the quadrants Kirk could've been refering to.

It wasn't until the movies that they started saying Alpha & Beta Quadrant.

Just my theory.




EnterpriseRock

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#2 16 years ago

Remember in ST:6 at the very beginning? Sulu says they are "cataloging gaseous planetary anomalies in Beta quadrant. Two months later, after Kirk is rescued, he says they are in Alpha quadrant. How can this be?

An of course, the biggest question: How can Picard be from France if he speaks with an English accent?




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#3 16 years ago

Alpha and Beta quadrant divide is very near if not IN Federation space. Klingon territory is in Beta quadrant but it's not claer if Rhura Pentha is in Beta or Alpha. From what you are saying I would think then that Rhura Pentha must be in Alpha and Sula raced only a short relative distance to cross from alpha to Beta to rescue Kirk.

As for the accent - would you want to be lumbered with a French accent? I bet he spent months with a Federation voice concellor trying to shake it!




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#4 16 years ago

That's got to be it, then. I love trying to find bloopers and inconsistencies. I rememer one TNG episode in which Data refers to "the archaic language known as French". The look on Picard's face was one in a million!




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#5 16 years ago

Originally posted by Eckie Thump Ok folks, lesson in warp theory coming up..:eek: TOS Enterprise had a max cruise speed of Warp 6 which could be forced to Warp 8 in extreme condition that would more than likely put the ship in great peril (aint Scotty a God?) As Gnaget rightly states this resulted in time travel after a slingshot manoeuvre round the sun. It reached Warp 11+ on a few occasions when a) was modified by NOMAD b) when captured by the Kelvans and modified to enable it to cross our galaxy and attempt to reach their galaxy, Andromeda. It also hit warp 14.1 when sabotaged by Losira! By the 24th Centuary STNG era the warp scale was indeed re-calibrated and employed a asymptotic curve that placed warp 10 at the top of the scale and was indeed infinite speed - with the ship occupying every point in the galaxy simultaneously. With the new warp scale the new Galaxy class Enterprise D had a cruising speed of Warp 6 which was Warp 7.3 on the old scale, and had a maximum sustainable speed of Warp 9.2 or 11.8 on the old scale. ok. The warp dynamics are not right at all. Hope this clears up you confusion - Star Trek really is my subject, unlike Wolfenstein tactics eh Gnaget. LOL Take care, Eckie

First of all, the Enterprise's max sustaianable speed is warp 9.6. they could hold it for up to 24 hours. SO if warp 9.2 is warp 11.8 on the orig. scale... what woudl warp 9.6 be??? Your measurements are very far off of your own scale.




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#6 16 years ago

Firstly, I was trying to point out how the Warp Scale had changed between series - which was Gnagets original query.

And now I quote the Star Trek encyclopedia with regards to Enterprise D:

"had a normal cruising speed of warp 6"

"had a maximum normal velocity of warp 9.2"

Warp 9.6 is the maximum rated speed and is only maintainable for 12 hours so it is not the maximum sustainable speed. 'Sustainable' means 'able to be maintained' - look it up. Enterpise cannot maintain 9.6.

ps this aint my scale its in the Encyclopedia - take it up with the Okudas:D

regards, Eckie




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#7 16 years ago

Ok. sorry i missunderstood ya. I didn't mean to be rude so relax and have a beer!!!:beer: .........Oh yeah Forgot something............................................................................:moon: haha j/k




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#8 16 years ago

No probs, had plenty beers today, cheers!:beer::beer::beer:




LJRuddy

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#9 16 years ago
Originally posted by Gnaget Anyone notice the conflicts between Voyager and the orignal ST? In the orig ST they wen't back in time when they hit warp 8. A couple times the orig went over warp 10, but warp 10 is supposed to be impossible (untill Paris). Orig they went to the edge of the galaxy several times. They didn't take 70 years to make it back. This can be explained since they were in the alpha quadrant, but still, it was a very quick trip and earth isn't nearly that close to the edge.

Ok ok u got it all wrong.... If u ever saw some of the episodes like.... um.... well i dont remember them off the top of my head but anyways, in some episodes Voyager went thru several worm holes that took them like 700 light years closer to home each time in most holes. so if u add in how far they are stranded in the DELTA QUADRANT (not the alpha quadrant) and subtract the light years that they traveled thru in worm holes then it would all add up.




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#10 16 years ago

Originally posted by Eckie Thump Firstly, I was trying to point out how the Warp Scale had changed between series - which was Gnagets original query. And now I quote the Star Trek encyclopedia with regards to Enterprise D: "had a normal cruising speed of warp 6" "had a maximum normal velocity of warp 9.2" Warp 9.6 is the maximum rated speed and is only maintainable for 12 hours so it is not the maximum sustainable speed. 'Sustainable' means 'able to be maintained' - look it up. Enterpise cannot maintain 9.6. ps this aint my scale its in the Encyclopedia - take it up with the Okudas:D regards, Eckie

Warp 9.6 is the maximum rated, not maintainable speed. In the ST: TNG episodes Q Who? and The Best of Both World, when te Enterprise is running away from a Borg Cube (in Q Who?) and later, when they are chasing a Cube heading toward Earth (in The Best of Both Worlds), they are travelling at Warp 9.6. Geordi says that "We can only maintain this speed for 12 hours" and are counting it down. Eventually, they have to slow down.