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#11 17 years ago

well Draco I feell the same way you do. Ever since it aired and ended on May23 2002 ( I belive) I felt heartbroken. But That was my show and i loved it. Why? Because I loved deep space and the unknown. I also liked the the original startrek. I call it the oldschool trek, way before my time. They made new contacts and explored unknow phenomina. 90,000 lightyears from home in uncharted territory, lead up to good story plots for the writers. In shows the Voyager crew would meet a race that would have technology that could shorten their trip by alot would either be incompatble or destroyed etc. Always made me think " Darn they almost had it!".I also liked the SNG, picard was my favorite character in that show, still is. I was growing up when my dad would watch it. Deepspace 9 is what I hated. Why? It just didnt seem space mysterious to me. Most of the shows plots and stories ( from what I Saw) where on the station, or space fights. I was watching one show of it where they were looking for a smugler onboard or something. After awhile it was old and stale to me. Ofcourse shows need to have problems on the ship rather than too much space delimas, but too much shows onboard can get boring. I am more of a CGI fanatic and Voyager was the all home run for me. Voyager:10/5 :nodding: SNG:4.5/5 TOS:4.5/4 DSP:2/5 Also the new Andromeda type star trek show on TV I used to watch, but stoped after the second show. I hated the actor as the captain of the ship. I dont hate the guy, I just hated the role he had to play. Why a captain? To me he didnt seem like a captain actor.

I think it destroyed Star Trek, abusing the Borg, having no logic in it. Repeating always the same stories, having boring characters...

The borg in my opinion was not abused. The crew was stranded 90,000 lightyears out of the alpha quadrant into the delta quadrant (borg territory). If they hardly showed any of them, then that would make the books seem like a lie. Infact borgs were constantly assumlating other species, it would of been hard for them to not have incounter them. Plues they could travel at 20times maxium warp velocity using a modifided transwarp conduits. That would of allowed alot of them to be in, our in near the voyager crew. As far as the logic, i would agree sometimes it never made sense. Loop holes in the story. I.e Ocampa race ( kes) couldnt exist, because they can only have one child. And I would agree on repeating stories on a part. Boring characters? During the shows seasons, I noticed that nearly every crew had a show dedicated to them to get you more into them. Cpt Janeway had one ( cant remember the episode name) Tuvoc, chekotey, ensign kim, and a few others. And not to forget the sexy Seven of 9 :cheers: :cheers: :thumbsup: :naughty: Please note: This post is my Opinion only, no flaming!




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#12 17 years ago

its kind of funny. the way that voyager finally gets home is not from an ally, not from a friendly people, not from anyone they would consider a friend, but they finally get home because of the federations greatest advissary, the borg. the dominion are not even a greater threat. the borg just keep on coming. plus throughout television and literature history, the good guys, voyager and the fed, face their greatest advissaries, the borg, the most times. look at sherlock homes, he faces moriarty than any other evil character. thats what i think




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#13 17 years ago

I liked Voygaer heaps cause they were exploring all the time and we got to see new species etc, DS9 was equally good cause it was back home and the Dominion War spiced it up heaps




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#14 17 years ago

I liked the Borg as they have been shown in Star Trek First Contact, beeing no emotional, cold, almost horrorlike beeings. Voyager made them to just another species and took the horror from them. Look: An Intrepid-Class defeating so many Borg ships? Including a Class 4 tactical cube, which is supposed to be stronger then a normal cube? Even a normal cube could not be defeated by a fleet of 39 federation starships, which were mostly equal in strengh with the Voyager. I do not know how you see it but I did not get the feeling to be 'part' of the Voyager Mafia.... uhm I mean family. They were so starnge. Introducing holydays throughout the series (I have seen 23:59 last sunday). I feel much more with the crew of Enterprise, although I do not know them for such a long time.




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#15 17 years ago

remember they did not defeat the tactical cube, they just distracted it to get janeway, tuvok, and torres aboard it. plus you cant take the battle at wolf 359 as an example, the fleet then was not designed to face the borg, voyager was. none of the ships at wolf 359 had the appropriate weapons, the shield and weapons modulation was not as advanced. and the only ship i can recall voyager ever being involved in the destruction of a borg ship, was the episode when seven's nano-probes assimilated the docters mobile emitter. and they didnt even cause the destruction of that sphere. it was the 29th century drone.




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#16 17 years ago

Okay, good point, but the Voyager was far too strong. The Intrepid-Class is not stronger than a fleet of 39 starships. You argument, that the Voyager could then take out 39 Starships? Including Nebula, and Ambassador Class? I doubt it could. What about the emotions? TNG made this mistake with the Lore-Borg. Thanx God they corrected it with First Contact. And now Voyager destroyes it all with Seven. Thanx God Enterprise has shown the Borg as we all love them.




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#17 17 years ago

I think Voyager made the Borg an interesting specices. All the infomation Voyager provided gave me the impression of a species as complex as many other welknown/traditional. I don't think it took the horror out of the Collective. It gave insight into another species. Seven too Gave an interesting view on both the Borg and Humanity. Yoyager made the Borg strong.

*me loves the Borg* :assimilate:




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#18 17 years ago

I cant beleve theres actualy Anti-Voyager posts :uhm: Voyager is a strong contender for being the best Star Trek series, and almost certainly is in my book. TNG follows, with DS9 then TOS, and lastly, the rather poor Enterprise, wich has been fine at times as a stand alone Sci-Fi, but fits into Star Trek rather like a square through a round hole. :uhoh:


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#19 17 years ago

yeah they in voyager they showed how the borg do things. in tng they just have the borg continuously attack with no plan or whatever, in voyager they actually show borg tactics.




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