All races of Star Trek and all races of Star Wars? I am talking in the shows and the movies, not Armada 2 Well, the federation have at least, AT LEAST 3000 star/warships The borg is countless, (999999cubes??) :rock: and cardassian, romulan klingon, all races in the Galaxy.....and especially the Dominion!
In my opinion, Star Trek could be able to win, because it has countless races! Tell me your opinion pleese!:) :rock:
i'd aggree with you. Star Trek would win. And the borg cube numbers in the millions
Star trek would win, no questions asked.
heh you guys should see the st vs sw thread at bcfiles.com over 15 pages
Do you realise how many of these arguments have taken place?? People have also made pages dedicated to proving one from the other. It seems to me that anyone who thinks one would win over the other should remember several things before returning to real life:
1) Most important. Ouside of the television, movie and written references neither program represents REAL LIFE (however, whilst some things may be possible, nothing has been directly made to represent the fiction portrayed in either series).
2) Your talking two seperate universes, and two seperate time periods.
So basically all these arguements (and this one is directly on a trek based board), are utterly pointless until these film writers make a cross over, and also until scientists create something which directly represents something portrayed in either the star wars films, star trek films/series or the currently available documentation then again. This is a waste of forum space.
Anyway, this IS my point of view, but I just felt it needed to be said.
But Major Payne, we're not talking about HOW they would cross over, it's who would have the best technology. CANON sources say lasers would not be an effective weapon against a shield. Period. The X-Wing's proton torpedoes might be, but it's doubtful, as the only test of power there was one fired down a reactor port, hitting a lightly shielded engine core. May i tell you that was a direct route also, not cutting through layers of hull. Even if lasers cut through the shields somehow, ablative armor from the Prometheus and possibly Voyager would probably hold up for a while. The very nature of shields is to reflect phaser fire, and sometimes objects that cannot be pushed out of the way with the deflector, and so it's tuned that way. Lasers would bounce off even a Venture's shields like a bug off a windshield. Now on offenses. All star wars ships are lightly shielded, from the way the shields of the ships are portrayed. They rely mostly on their hull. This is eerily Borg-like. If you've ever played SFC3, you know how strong those hull layers can be. But, I do not think they would hold up under phaser fire, since laser fire seems to blow them to bits after a while. Add in gravimetric, tricobalt, transphasic, quantum, and photon torpedoes, and, well, you've got the battle made. I don't think the SW universe is at a time period where they KNOW lasers don't work, because they work in most major conflicts. I'm not biased on this one, as I love star trek, but I like Star Wars too. I'm not just completely ecstatic about the dialogue in the last movie! (YUK!) Anyway, that's my opinion. I made this reply longer than I wanted it to be :p
Sorry aishaacara2 but without a cross over were unable to ascertain whose tech is better.
In the books the imperial research station that designed the Death Star, created a ship called the Sun Crusher which has armor that cannot be destroyed. The only part of it that can be harmed is the weapons. The ship was described as a small thorn. It's purpose was to destroy suns with a special torpedo. The torpedo also does a lot of damage against armor, I don't remember if the torpedo went through shields or if it impacted them. Anyway this ship took a direct hit from a miniature Death Star and it didn't affect it a bit, furthermore the ship cripled a Star Destroyer by flying through it's command bridge and coming out unscathed.
The New Republic tried to destroy the Sun Crusher by flying it into the Gas Giant Yavin, where the extreme pressure would crush it. It was later pulled out by one of Luke's apprentices. In the end they got rid of it by alowing it to be pulled into a black hole.
So let me ask you this. What good is this ablative armor if this ship can destroy it by flying through it?
By the way, the weapons in Star Wars are not that different then the ones in Star Trek. The ships use Turbolasers which seem to be a lot like Star Trek pulse weapons (like what the Romulans, Klingons, and the defiant use). The Turbolasers are their main weapon but I do believe they also have missle weapons.
I also don't see where you've gotten the idea that Star Wars ships are lightly shielded. A test that Han did on the Falcon required that the shields hold the ship off the ground (I believe for a certain amount of time). There are different types of shields in Star Wars too like Ray shields, Partical shields and collision shields (it's posible the collision shields are the same as the Partical shields, but I don't think so). The thermal exaust port on the Death Star was ray shielded not partical shielded, which is why a proton torpedo could penetrate it.
JUST DON'T START!!!
You cannot compare the two. They are completey DIFFERENT!!! DIFFERENT I SAY!!!!!!!!!
I tried to compare but you can't.
hyperdrive v warp lasers v phasers deflector v shields photon v proton SD v Cube Deathstar v FC X-wing v Pergine
There are just so many differences. Some may be similar but not the same.
Validating my existance
8th July 2002
Star Trek has the Q. End of debate. :p
Actually no, as far as I know of the Q don't get into wars. If you have ever herd of the Q getting into a war then be all means lets hear it. Star Wars has also had at least 3 massive wars recently. The Clone Wars, the Rebellion, and the invasion of the Yuuzhan Vong have all happened in the last 50 some years. These wars have all been galaxy wide and have destroyed countless ships. If the Star Wars universe had it as easy as the Federation there would be no stoping it. Plus the Old Republic didn't have warships, there wern't any warships intill the Clone Wars.
I was just wondering, where did you get the 3000 star/warship count for the Federation? In First Contact Picard said that ther were over 150 planets in the Federation. If there is only 150 some planets how on earth did they get 3000 ships?