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The.Grand.Nagus

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#111 12 years ago
Nibinrog;4629372Are you intentionally dense, or are you just as stupid as it appears from your posts?

Yes, give in to your anger. With each passing moment you make yourself more my servant :lol:




elminster

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#112 12 years ago
Nibinrog;4629372Are you intentionally dense, or are you just as stupid as it appears from your posts?

Nah, he's just trolling.

He understands exactly what is meant and is just choosing not to understand.




The.Grand.Nagus

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#113 12 years ago
elminster;4629419Nah, he's just trolling.[/quote] If by "trolling" you mean pointing out the hypocrisy in the modding community, then yeah thats what I'm doing :rolleyes: [quote=elminster;4629419]He understands exactly what is meant and is just choosing not to understand.

I understand that you think it is fine for you to take someone else's work/time/effort and use it without their permission, but you do not think it is fine for your work/time/effort to be used without your permission :smokin:




Fyurii

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#114 12 years ago

The.Grand.Nagus;4629635If by "trolling" you mean pointing out the hypocrisy in the modding community, then yeah thats what I'm doing :rolleyes:

I understand that you think it is fine for you to take someone else's work/time/effort and use it without their permission, but you do not think it is fine for your work/time/effort to be used without your permission :smokin:

You're just butt hurt that whilst Paramount and allow people to use a design that they didn't create, on the understanding that they make no monetary benefit or claim the original design as their own, and re-create it themselves for the purpose of a game modification, whilst they then apply restrictions to other people who wish to use the product of the work they did, without permission and/or credit.

Paramount is not oblivious to the existence of game mods that use copyrighted designs/names, and allow them to happen on the understanding that no money is made for those whom mod, and that they never attempt to claim themselves as the designers of the original product/image/design etc.

Paramount itself didn't create these things, yet the people who did were paid by other people, to design them and surrender their rights to the design.

In all modding communities, nobody has legal rights to the things they create for a game, post release. They are not entitled to any monetary gain, and attempting to do so is most likely to result in legal procedings.

They do however, have the right to request that whatever works they create - even if replicating a pre-existing design appearance - are only allowed to be used by others if they ask permission, or credit them, or do both. It is a general code of conduct, that is designed for cooperation, and to help protect the modders themselves from less scrupulous people that attempt to claim credit for work they never did.

Whilst they don't have legal claim, they have a moral and ethical claim.

All that your original post, and all your subsequent posts boil down to, is that because you failed to seek permission to use someone else's work, that your mod was taken down. You have then proceded to discredit every other mod ever made, for every game that has been modded by users, because you attempt to use the most ridiculous technicalities that have no baring whatsoever.

You've taken what sounds like a simple misunderstanding, and blown it completely out of proportion.

So you're hurt. Big fucking deal. Suck it up, get over it, then ask permission from whomever needed, then re-submit your file.

If you don't get permission, remove that part of the mod.

To be honest though, after this little tantrum of yours, I wouldn't be surprised to find your name considered as less than mud in the modding community, and you'll have brought it upon yourself.




The.Grand.Nagus

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#115 12 years ago
Fyurii;4630134Paramount and allow people to use a design that they didn't create, on the understanding that they make no monetary benefit or claim the original design as their own, and re-create it themselves for the purpose of a game modification, whilst they then apply restrictions to other people who wish to use the product of the work they did, without permission and/or credit.

...and then you woke up. Sorry, but Paramount has NOT given the public permission to copy their designs and distribute them, whether for profit or not. But hey, if you think they have, feel free to show us where. Oh, thats right; they havent, so you cant. In that case, go ahead and post some more profanity and show everyone how cool you are :lol:




elminster

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#116 12 years ago

His name already is mud.

Don't feed the Trolls.




The.Grand.Nagus

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#117 12 years ago
elminster;4630180His name already is mud. Don't feed the Trolls.

Look who's back. I knew you couldnt resist my charm :naughty:




Fyurii

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#118 12 years ago
The.Grand.Nagus;4630162...and then you woke up. Sorry, but Paramount has NOT given the public permission to copy their designs and distribute them, whether for profit or not. But hey, if you think they have, feel free to show us where. Oh, thats right; they havent, so you cant. In that case, go ahead and post some more profanity and show everyone how cool you are :lol:

You obviously have a problem with reading comprehension, monsieur Troll.

I never said they gave permission, I said they allow it. There is a difference between giving permission, and allowing something to take place. It's called tolerance. They tolerate the things that modders of ST games do, as do many developers themselves. The developers who give permission, do so by releasing mod tools of all sorts.

So long as there is no copyright infringements, then Paramount will happily tolerate modders for ST games, and what they do with their mods.

If they should so choose, they can order all ST related modding to be shut down permenantly. After that, they can pursue legal procedings against any who continue to.

There was a Halo based total conversion mod for either Empire at War, or CnC: Generals, that was ordered by Microsoft to cease all development because they own the rights to Halo and were making a Halo RTS game. They had every legal right to do so, but there was no need to do so.

The game developers themselves can also put a ban on any modding of their games, yet the majority encourage and foster modding of games.

The problem isn't your inability to differentiate between what is really going on here (you whining about your mod) and what various laws say.

The problem is, once again, that you're not mature enough to admit you were wrong, that the modders aren't actually breaking any law, and that you didn't live up to your end of an clause by which you would be able to use someone's mod in your own.

In all honesty, this thread has absolutely nothing to do with a specific mod, and everything to do with the troll of an OP's silly little tantrum. This thread should be locked.




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#119 12 years ago

[COLOR=DarkGreen]Guys, leave this imbecile be. He'll be his own undoing.[/COLOR]