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Marker0077

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#1 15 years ago

Marker0077 GAMINGFORUMS (JK2FILES.COM) EDIT: The Duelers forums & the JK2 General forum is on the same server so I am just leaving a forward in the Duelers Suggestions forum to this thread, which is actually in JK2 General. GAMINGFORUMS (JK2FILES.COM) EDIT END

Okay folks, I am sure most of you know the routine. I am taking up a variety of polls up in a variety of places because I want to get some feedback from you on some ideas I've been having. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you all for your time now. It helps make an already phenomenal mod even more incredible. grin.gif

Anyways, to the topic at hand, I want to make a few changes to the existing Orange & Purple stances like...

#1) Orange does about the same damage as Red & Purple does the about same damage as Blue. Since there is no middle stance, Orange is faster than Red & Purple is faster than Blue. multi_stances_diff.jpg I made the New Fast Stance by combining the Blue & Yellow stances, then I made the New Hard Stance by combining the Red & Yellow stances (there is a little difference between old & new with hard stance).

So #1 is, I want to change the colors of the 2 stances.

#2) I think the Crab Twirl (Purple special) would make a great counter attack move, except it just takes too damn long.

So #2 is, I think the Crab Twirl should be faster & less damaging (less damaging to compensate for the speed increase).

#3) I think that the Vertical Twirl (Orange special) should always spin counter-clockwise (looking from above the player doing the move, like third person view) instead of rotating between clockwise & counter-clockwise.

Clockwise just isn't as useful as counter-clockwise is. Hits tend to connect more with counter-clockwise & people like to turn with the spin (like the 1.03 back attack days) to connect more hits, so this helps out a bit there as well.

#4) Fix the Orange damage in Duelers 1.3. It does the same damage as Purple but it is not supposed to.

#5) This is no biggie but I would like to see some new idle animations. There was some new stances mod out some time ago, perhaps some of those animations could be used for multiple blades? I don't remember the mod all that well, I do remember the idle animation stances it used for Blue, Yellow & Red sucked but perhaps with multiple blades it would be different. Maybe get some different idle animations just for dual sabers, then the dual bladed sabers would still use the existing? I don't know, just throwin' ideas out.

Why we default extra stances & all stances off All this section does is go into some reasons why we default extra stances & all stances off since that is somewhat on this topic.

We recommend (& default) all stances & extra stances (single saber uses blue, yellow & red only; multiple blades use Orange & Purple stances only) for a variety of reasons...

#1) If you were to enable dual dual bladed sabers, having defense on all 4 corners will probably block a lot of swings players never even meant to block (as well as hit) which takes a bit of skill out of the duels.

#2) Animations with the blue, yellow & red stances go through the player model with multiple blades (in other words, it looks lame).

#3) Switching between 5 stances fast is more difficult to do than switching between 3 stances fast & does tend to mess up fast counter attacks.

#4) The Orange & Purple stances have been set up for balanced gameplay without the traditional 3 stances. Orange does about the same damage as Red & Purple does the about same damage as Blue. Since there is no middle stance, Orange is faster than Red & Purple is faster than Blue.

#5) The Orange & Purple specials are at least twice as damaging with multiple blades where with the Blue, Yellow & Red stances, it makes no differance at all.




Zathu_Koon

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#2 15 years ago

Voted.. I like the sound of what you posted. BTW, all the options are #1.




[DF]Mace Windu

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#3 15 years ago

Maybe anpther idea, put the new stances in the force powers, so players can choose if they want the new stances or not.




Marker0077

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#4 15 years ago
Originally posted by Zathu_Koon Voted.. I like the sound of what you posted. BTW, all the options are #1.

All the options are different options for #1 & #2. 4 different possible options, I did post it right. Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you meant.

Originally posted by [DF]Mace Windu Maybe anpther idea, put the new stances in the force powers, so players can choose if they want the new stances or not.

You can already do that, always have. That is something that is set in the server. I have requested a client side CVar for disabling it even if the server has it enabled, it doesn't look too promising though.




Zathu_Koon

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#5 15 years ago

I mean that they all start off with #1), I assumed that your trying to number them, but copy/pasted/forgot so the next one should be #2), etc. :P




RaSiN_HeCk

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#6 15 years ago
You can already do that, always have. That is something that is set in the server. I have requested a client side CVar for disabling it even if the server has it enabled, it doesn't look too promising though.

sweetness, I hate switching through 5 stances to get back to blue




Marker0077

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#7 15 years ago

Alright, time to do a recap, count the votes & close the polls. Let's see what we've got here...

Total Change Stance Colors: Yes Votes: 25

Change Stance Colors: No Votes: 1

Change Crab Twirl: Yes Votes: 22

Change Crab Twirl: No Votes: 4

GamingForums (JK2Files.com) http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81983 Change Stance Colors: Yes Votes: 8

Change Stance Colors: No Votes: 1

Change Crab Twirl: Yes Votes: 7

Change Crab Twirl: No Votes: 2

LucasForums (JediKnightII.net) http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1232273 Change Stance Colors: Yes Votes: 2

Change Stance Colors: No Votes: 0

Change Crab Twirl: Yes Votes: 2

Change Crab Twirl: No Votes: 0

DarkSide with DarkStats Forums http://forums.darkstats.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5183 Change Stance Colors: Yes Votes: 4

Change Stance Colors: No Votes: 0

Change Crab Twirl: Yes Votes: 3

Change Crab Twirl: No Votes: 1

+POO+ Clan Forums http://www.l33ad.com/~pooclan/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=505 Change Stance Colors: Yes Votes: 6

Change Stance Colors: No Votes: 0

Change Crab Twirl: Yes Votes: 6

Change Crab Twirl: No Votes: 0

Sith Vikings Clan Forums http://www.sithvikings.org/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=183&start=0&rid=98&S=a3ebe5d58e1dd3f27c14cb03bae621ef Change Stance Colors: Yes Votes: 5

Change Stance Colors: No Votes: 0

Change Crab Twirl: Yes Votes: 4

Change Crab Twirl: No Votes: 1