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WJTW

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#1 16 years ago

Have you noticed that sometimes, holograms seem to be able to display color, but sometimes, only able to display in shades of blue? For example, Darth Sidious and the holograms of the viceroys, and Darth Maul, were all just different tones of blue, with no way to tell the color. But in AOTC, you can clearly see the green face of the Rodian who told Palpatine that Senator Padme has arrived. Is this to be considered a mistake?

This might've been due to the advancement of technology through the movies.

In TPM, holograms were darker in color, and had almost no color except the blueish ones. Tones are just differentiated with darker blue or lighter blue. In AOTC, there was the ability to show some color. You can see the green face of the rodian who told Palpatine that Senator Padme has arrived. You can also tell the brownish robes on Obi-Wan Kenobi and the brownish boots as well.

This might not be true, however. I'm not sure about ANH, but in ESB, the technology didn't seem to get any better. In fact, it got worst. Vader's hologram was blue, with the black being blue, and so were the Imperial troops who reported about the Millennium Falcon possibly being destroyed in the asteroid belt. The Emperor as well. Haven't been able to watch ROTJ, so, I can't tell the color there.

Then, we have JK2, where we get to see our first hologram. MonMothma's hologram seem very different from the holograms we see in the Star Wars world. MonMothma actually as a lot of very obvious colors, even the hair color can be seen clearly. And Monmothma haven't a trace of blue, and was very clear. Even the transparency was not as obvious. I'm sure the developers have made a mistake here in hologram color... too obvious the colors are.

But, it might be, once again, the advancement in technology. However, I have a feeling this might not be so. You see, the developers in JK2 are obviously trying to create environments as closely related to the movies as possible, and having the holograms look different is more likely a mistake then a way to show advancement, since we never saw any other technological advancements in the game.

Oh, and when a hologram first appear in the movies, we get a faint throbbing sound. But in JK2, we get a crackling sound, like those walkie talkies. Yet another mistake...

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#2 16 years ago

maybe it depends on what technology they use. low class holograms or not... maybe the siths want their holograms to be blue, like the red sabers? dunno. hmmm




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#3 16 years ago

well jk2 is set like a long time from all those other movies and jk1 so i think it may have FINALLY advanced. ive noticed this sometimes but i htink its pretty unstable and u c in ep2 when obi is reporting from kamino it flickers pretty bad. so i htink it has its bad times and its good times




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#4 16 years ago

nooo, that's becuz of the very long distance (and the bad weather:))




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#5 16 years ago

Yes. That is probably because of the heavy rain on Kamino. And the distance from Kamino to Coruscant seem to be far. I think the heavy rain is more probable. When Kenobi transmitted to Tatooine from Geonosis, then Coruscant, we didn't see any inteference, right? I believe Geonosis is also quite far away.

Oh, the JK2 one might indeed be advancement, like I've said, since you can see color very clearly. But the hologram in JK2 look kind of ugly. Should've followed more closely with the movie and add more of the bluish tint.

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#6 16 years ago
Originally posted by WJTW But the hologram in JK2 look kind of ugly.

That might have more to do with the game engine than anything else.




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#7 16 years ago

ah yes in comes xeno to prove a point nobody w but normal ppl would think of. i agree its prollie limitaitions of ther game being that its would be hard to make it that realistic




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#8 16 years ago

You guys do know that the hologram in jk2 is just a map object?...........




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#9 16 years ago
This might not be true, however. I'm not sure about ANH, but in ESB, the technology didn't seem to get any better. In fact, it got worst. Vader's hologram was blue, with the black being blue, and so were the Imperial troops who reported about the Millennium Falcon possibly being destroyed in the asteroid belt. The Emperor as well. Haven't been able to watch ROTJ, so, I can't tell the color there.

ANH, ESb and ROTJ were made b4 TPm and AOTC. Technology in the 70s isn't good enough for too many flashy effects considering their small harddisks.

And, ah your threads are driving me nuts! I couldn't believe you could pick out so many mistakes!




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#10 16 years ago

Hmm... Yes. I've always thought the hologram in JK2 is something separate. That explains why there is always a picture of an upside-down MonMothma when the level loads. But I'm more inclined to think the MonMothma hologram is actually a sort of in-game movie, since only movies causes my screen to display them upside down during loading.

And yes, I am aware of the fact that it might be limitations to the game engine, because someone once made a Sidious hologram mode/skin and had difficulty making it transparent and flicker or whatever at once. That probably explains why raven needed to have the hologram as a movie clip, with the effects already done, and all they had to do was to make it transparent.

It seem to me that any area which is black will be displayed as blue on a hologram. Sidious, Vader, Maul, etc, proved that. Maybe the blackness made the blue more prominent?

Actually, this is not a mistake, dexian. It is just something about hologram technology.

In fact, you can just post your own ideas about Star Wars' holograms. Don't have to really reply to my message.

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