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Flash525

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#1 11 years ago

Ok, I was talking to someone about this the other day, though I forget who it was, anyway, do all ships that can fire forward also fire backward too? When you look at ships such as the Constitution, Excelsior, Defiant, Klingon Bird of Prey, D'Deridex etc etc, they don't seem to have any visible aft weaponry. Now, such ships, like the Birds of Prey and other smaller craft don't really need to fire backward, they are small, and can move about at such a pace that they could probably turn and face their attacker in the amount of time it takes to fire a torpedo backward, however (if you exclude the rare scene in Way of the Warrior which shows a Bird of Prey fire an aft torpedo from her Impulse Engines) do these ships posses aft weapons? Then you look at the bigger ships, the D'Deridex for starters - no visible weapons on the back of them ships, nothing, not even disruptor's. Now, those ships are far too big to be turning around if up against a much more manoeuvrable craft. Which brings me to the Constitution & Excelsior. One would assume they've got the capability to fire backward, but do they? We've never seen them do it on the shows or movies, and there aren't any visible items on the ships which would account for such.




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#2 11 years ago

Well the Constitution class refit has 2 single phaser banks, as opposed to the dual banks, located just above the shuttle bay. This is visible in the ship plans.

There is anecdotal evidence in TOS on some of the bridge com chatter which mentions either after phasers or torpedoes, or both. I forget which. However the first time we ever saw a Constitution class, refit or pre-refit, use aft weapons was on ENT.

I think the Excelsior has aft torpedoes under the shuttle bay, but I need to consult some drawings first. From the looks of it, some drawings have it listed as a plasma dump vent with the actual aft launcher located between the main impulse vents.




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#3 11 years ago

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#4 11 years ago

'going fast' be ware, ditl has proven to be wrong multiple times.. Indeed the excelsior has an aft torpedo bay under the shuttlebay or even below it( ---




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#5 11 years ago
sovereign001;3504171Indeed the excelsior has an aft torpedo bay under the shuttlebay or even below it( ---

Or maybe in the Shuttle Bay :lol: I find it strange though how these aft launchers look nothing like the forward ones. Torpedo Tubes should look the same, at least to a point. Look at the Miranda, her forward and aft tubes are the same.




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#6 11 years ago

Well the only thing about a torpedo tube that needs to be the same is the diameter, unless the type of torpedo you use in one launcher is different. The main problem that you have with the Constitution and Excelsior class ships is that the aft section of the secondary hull is rather restrictive. You have your tractor beam assembly, the shuttle bay, and the main cargo holds, as well as you warp propulsion components. So the placement of the aft launcher and torpedo bay is a bit more problematic, so you may end up needing a modified launcher design. The advantage that the Miranda has is that it's torpedo launcher is literally a module separate from the hull. This allows for a completely integrated for and aft launcher assembly. Of course the main disadvantage is that it has a very limited magazine capacity. It wouldn't surprise me if the Miranda launcher is a completely unmanned system.




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#7 11 years ago

the BOP does have Aft weapons. It had a torpedo launcher right above its engines. You can see it fire in way of the warrior when the defiant is trying to save dukats ship.

the defiant also has an aft torpedo launcher and a bridge mounted phaser emitter.




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#8 11 years ago
F-Bobby;3508690the BOP does have Aft weapons. It had a torpedo launcher right above its engines. You can see it fire in way of the warrior when the defiant is trying to save dukats ship.

But is that actually an Aft Torpedo Launcher, or was that an FX glitch to make the scene look good? Considering how big the forward torpedo launcher is on the Bird of Prey, it seems unlikely that they have aft weaponry. I'm still waiting for evidence of the Constitution & Excelsiors aft weapons... If there is any evidence that is.




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#9 11 years ago

I don't believe there is, as far as I am aware the only ship we have actually seen the aft launchers on is the Intrepid class Voyager most notably in Endgame as we saw the lauchers, but other VOY episodes it has fired aft as well.




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#10 11 years ago

c_Excelsior.gif voila like i said under the shuttlebay or in that small 'neck' or how you call it... in star trek nemesis, the sovereign refit has a torp laucnher there aswel...




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