Does Startrek's future perhaps lie in a re-imagining? -1 reply

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Rue McDohl

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#1 11 years ago

Ever since Enterprise went down the tube so to speak many a trek fan have been demanding/begging that the only way to save the franchise is more TNG, however it's odd the concept of "starting over" has not been seriously discussed here. Yes we will always love the classics but is not change something that this franchise tries to hammer in our skulls on a regular basis.

The most obvious example of "starting over" is in the new Battlestar Galactica, keeping the basic idea behind the show intact while re-imagining the more subtle areas they created a show that drew me in better than the classic ever could have. This also worked well with iconic Transformers on several ocasions as well as the equaly well known cartoon sci-fi series "gundam". So the question is will it work with trek I for one would love to see some other person's look into what their version of trek might look like.

Now of course there are tons of possiblites concerning the revival of the series from a new TNG to simply giving the series a break for a few years, however I wish to know what people think of a "re-imagining".




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#2 11 years ago

The difference between Galactica and TNG is that galactica has a main storyline, while TNG was more of a compilement of adventures. Therefor it wouldn't be that interesting to just 're-make' the series. It would just be the same time frame, with new episodes and better graphics. And I don't think many trek fans would like this. On the other hand I like the TNG era and I wouldn't mind seeing some new episodes, though I wouldn't want it as THE new tactic to make Trek popular again...If that's what we're putting our hope in, than we've fallen pretty low, if you ask me. Others may have different opinions though.


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#3 11 years ago

Absolutely not.

If Star Trek "reenvisions" its going to waste that time...I should let go of it now. That's a huge waste of time. Trek has been about moving forward...Lets move forwards

This show is about exploration about GOING WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE....

Let's Go to an Orbiting globular cluster.... Let's Go to another Galaxy!

I'm mean trek is about gonig out there...I'd like to see the opposite of Battlestar Galactica...I wanna see a Expedition to somewhere else using the best of Trek Tech...

It would be great...The Expedition would be the test of a host of new technology...It'd be an opportunity to explore many different captains that would continue to reoccur in the Series...

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STAR TREK DESTINY



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#4 11 years ago

Well what I mean is not a retelling of what has been but rather something new using a different vision trek spirit (new ships and character types not resitricted by past series), you are correct in saying that simply doing the same thing over again is pointless when it's not a single story like Galactica.

My ideal re-invisioning would have fresh new ship designs, new ways of travel, new concepts of how to live and exploring more than just new planets and people. I think you guys misunderstood me greatly.




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#5 11 years ago

We're polar opposites Rue.

I love the ships the way they are. You know I'm a traditionalist. But the spirit of trek does needs a fresh infusion of cool and new...

In that way I'm not traditionlist...I want to make Trek cool...Intresting for every one....I want it serious...and high impacting...and I want episdoes with high energy....It's something you don't have to do every episode but It would be you know....You'd be watching and....automaticly this certain music plays a certain cinematic style...and you just know...

And people would think...Ohh...I like these kinds of episodes! Oh I'm glad this ones different last weeks...Wow this refreshing....

That's what I want to do with trek..




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#6 11 years ago

I agree with Saquist. No! It is nice to see TOS re-imagined, and maybe TNG and the first couple of series for DS9, VOY was fairly ok, as were the later states of DS9. I don't think there is much more that can be done with them. We need a new show. I'd like to see a movie, that goes into a series. Would make a nice change.




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#7 11 years ago

There're possibilities... A series set post-Nemesis which is changed in the slightly the same manner as BSG, becoming more mature, I suppose you could say. By this I don't mean adding in a lot of T&A or excessive cussing or blood but rather just having a lot more depth to the story and more intensity and some complex subtext. Also if it's set in the future you won't need to change ship designs/characters because you can introduce new stuff... As far as a redoing anything... I don't think you could redo TNG successfuly, look at how much negative feedback there's been in regards to someone else playing Kirk in a prequel flick, I can't really picture anyone else but Stewart as Picard. However, I would really like to see a sort of Band of Brothers styled show set during the Dominion War, that's one area of Trek I think is open to being expanded and that there'd be some interesting episodes/plots there... the battle for and the occupation of Betazed, some of the ground campaigns from a Starfleet or Klingon perspective, some of the special ops that would've taken place, the Breen attack on Earth... or even some backstory for some of the ships we see/hear about during the major battles seen in DS9, ie: the Sitak, the Majestic, the Cairo, the Centaur... That's my two cents.




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#8 11 years ago
SupaStarAsh;3540624I agree with Saquist. No! It is nice to see TOS re-imagined, and maybe TNG and the first couple of series for DS9, VOY was fairly ok, as were the later states of DS9. I don't think there is much more that can be done with them. We need a new show. I'd like to see a movie, that goes into a series. Would make a nice change.

With TOS its more a re-master than re-imagined, re-imaged is just as the name sounds while re-mastering something requires the typical update with out changing to original footage much.

Problem with my vision of a re-envisioned trek is that it's so alien in how I see it I don't think I could do it justice with words...perhaps i'll take the idea and make an original sci-fi story someday. *shrugs*

Edit: Also, music. The new BSG's music is breath taking, easily one of the best sound tracks ever and makes the music I hear in startrek sound almost amaturish and while I understand that style of music would not fit all genres trek needs as Saquist pointed out a larger "wow" factor and music can make or break things aiming for that.




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#9 11 years ago

Something Elevator said made my give an idea. I would really like to see a St movie, with more ground action! So we can finally show those warsies we can fight on the ground aswell as in space. Add some vehicles, fliying craft, some handweapons...We hardly see anything like that. :(


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#10 11 years ago

That's because that's not what Star Trek is about, Sov. The clue is in the names of the respective franchises.

As to the topic, just let the series die. We don't need it to be trampled on any further. The licence has been drawn out for longer than anybody could ever have thought possible, and has been dragged through the mud for most of its latter life. There is such a thing as a graceful exit, which Star Trek has been denied. It could have been remembered as a classic, had they stopped with DS9, but they had to drag every penny they could out of it. Now, it's a shell. A 're-imagining' is pointless, as it wouldn't really be Star Trek anymore - just use some imagination and come up with a new franchise, for crying out loud!

Star Trek's era of sci-fantasy space opera is gone. Battlestar Galactica, and Firefly before it, hail the new era of mature sci-fi. And I for one welcome it.




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