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Flash525

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#1 10 years ago

There are two 'factions' I'd like to bring up here. The first being the faction that Daniel (from Enterprise) belonged too, and the second, is the future where the USS Relativity / USS Aeon is from. From what we are told through the various shows and storyline, the Relativity and Aeon are 'Federation Time ships'. Daniel however, has stated that in the future where he comes from, the Federation doesn't exist (at least, not in the sense we currently know it as). One can conclude from that point, that Daniel is from a time after the Relativity and Captain Braxton. There are however, some incidents that have happened, that by the above nature, should not have been allowed to happen, yet they did. For now, I'll leave out the involvement of other species, simply because they aren't bound by the Federation law. TNG episodes, such as Yesterdays Enterprise, Cause and Effect, along with Times Arrow aren't being discussed in the same manner, as they aren't really a problem for me, due to them all serving a purpose. The same goes for First Contact. Ships travel into the future / past, only to contune making the present. If the Ent-E hadn't gone back in time, there would have been no first contact. If the Ent-C hadn't gone forward in time, Picard wouldn't have urged the crew to go back to their doom, etc etc. DS9 - Little Green Men - Quark, Rom, Nog and Odo accidently end up on Earth in 1947. Considering the damage that they could have done, and the technology that could have been acquired by the military, where were the future timeships? DS9 - Trials and Tribble-ations - Granted the Defiant didn't actually do anything it wasn't suppose too, but what if the cloak suddenly went offline, or there was an anti-matter leak or something? She'd have appeared in the TOS scene, probably be shot at by the D7 etc etc VOY - Year of Hell - Which was ever the 'real' timeline? One could assume the first one, but then, was the Krenium weapon suppose to end up destroying Voyager, or wasn't it? VOY - Timeless - Kim and Chakotay wish to 'correct' the past, thus altering the future. Relativity anyone? VOY - Endgame - This has to be one of the more serious ones, simply because its how Voyager gets home. In one time, Voyager makes it home, but it takes a lot longer, and Janeway is unhappy with that. So what does she do for the sake of her crew? She alters the timeline. Shouldn't agents from Daniels Timeline have jumped in to stop her? These are only some of the examples, I couldn't be bothered to go through them all.




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#2 10 years ago

A good observation, I've never really noticed that lol

DS9 - Little Green Men - Quark, Rom, Nog and Odo accidently end up on Earth in 1947. Considering the damage that they could have done, and the technology that could have been acquired by the military, where were the future timeships?

This must have been allowed somehow. Come to think of it, maybe the Ferengi tech aquired could have possibly jump started human tech by reverse engineering thus paving the way for the space race, electronics, microchips, etc.

DS9 - Trials and Tribble-ations - Granted the Defiant didn't actually do anything it wasn't suppose too, but what if the cloak suddenly went offline, or there was an anti-matter leak or something? She'd have appeared in the TOS scene, probably be shot at by the D7 etc etc

Well, good thing the cloak was maintained eh?

VOY - Year of Hell - Which was ever the 'real' timeline? One could assume the first one, but then, was the Krenium weapon suppose to end up destroying Voyager, or wasn't it?

Must have been allowed since: - Annorax kept erasing planets, if he won, more planets would be erased since he wanted to get his wife back by any means. -The destruction of his vessel restored everything he erased right?

VOY - Timeless - Kim and Chakotay wish to 'correct' the past, thus altering the future. Relativity anyone?

Voyager ftw, she must have been a very significant vessel and was allowed to live...

VOY - Endgame - This has to be one of the more serious ones, simply because its how Voyager gets home. In one time, Voyager makes it home, but it takes a lot longer, and Janeway is unhappy with that. So what does she do for the sake of her crew? She alters the timeline. Shouldn't agents from Daniels Timeline have jumped in to stop her?

Possibly Allowed since all that future tech that Voyager aquired. Must have been integral to some future conflict after Voyager got home. ^ Just personal speculation though. But come to think of it, the good guys always win in this case. Maybe the future UFP wanted things to go their way. ;)




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#3 10 years ago
Jetfreak;4745192But come to think of it, the good guys always win in this case. Maybe the future UFP wanted things to go their way.

You say that, but then, which future UFP are we talking about? ;) Surely, the Voyager that got home the long way, would have resulted in a different future, with a different USS Relativity, which would have (or should have) jumped into action the moment old Janeway came through that rift, and spoke to Young Janeway. Damn, I hate time paradoxes.




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#4 10 years ago

Yup, inconsistensies like this are always unavoidable in a show like ST. It's just like Janeway said. "It's better if you just ignore it" lol