Hirogen VS Predator: Who will become a trophy? -1 reply

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Tommy MK1

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#1 10 years ago

Both aliens are big, powerful and have an obsession with hunting prey and making a trophy out of them. In this scenario, a Hirogen and a Predator (also known as a Yautja) are mysteriously transported outside their universes and put inside an empty Geonosian arena. Round 1 is a bare fists/claws/feet match, no weapons allowed. They both can keep their respective scanners and armor (predator may even use his cloak if it evens the match). The second scenario will include the use of weapons. Predator may use his plasma caster and spear/knife, Hirogen may use his disruptorrifle and extra knifes he has on him. In our left corner, we have a frightfull looking being who can kill a man with one bad look :p and has enough power to punch a full grown man a few feet through the air.... Predator!

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In the right corner, we have a fully armored brute capable of snapping an ex-Borg's neck with ease and wrestles with three-legged extradimensional aliens for sport. Give it up for Hirogen!

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How will this battle end? Who takes the trophy back home?




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#2 10 years ago

both self destruct... mmh if we go by specs of the hirogen in case of it's normal armor and weaponry, i would say the hirogen BUT The predator is much faster and about strength, mmh, a predator is damn strong, very strong. We saw very powerful men giving kicks and the predator just laughed and waved them away. The hirogen is indeed capable of snapping a drone (full of armor, metal studs) in two but his armor restricts his speed and movement but it protects itselfs also against the fast movements of the predators and punches. I think both will be equal. The second match The predator can cloak, use special weaponry and it's spear, which is damn lethal and deadly to almost everyone. The armor of the hirogen concerns me again. It was told the armor was capable of protecting the soldier against a nova for couple of hours and this asks for power. But the plasma gun of the predator or the discs would be sufficient to finish the hirogen soldier. The hirogen soldier has a lot of weapons, from axes to weapons to blow up a mountain. To detect a cloak, i think the weapon has an inbuild tracking device so he would find the predator but the predator is damn agile so it would be difficult. I think out of boredom, both will activate a self destruct and both will be dead.




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#3 10 years ago
Sovereign001;4594367 I think out of boredom, both will activate a self destruct and both will be dead.

While I believe it's true for the Predator, I've never heard or seen that Hirogen blow themselves up in desperate situations or out of boredome. :o You've made some good points. I agree with almost everything you've said in you post. But... I think we shouldn't underestimate how strong a well trained Hirogen is. We saw one of them fighting a member of Species 8472 during a Voyager episode. That's the same species who could tear through Voyagers outer hull in the same episode and who are capable of literaly ripping Borg to pieces and and building a nice piece of art out of it....

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I can see your point that if a Predator would lose he would selfdestruct if he can. But for the sake of a good arguement, the Predator doesn't wear his portable kamikaze-nuke and the Hirogen doesn't set his rifle to overload. We're talking about 'honerable' warriors here for this scenario. (Although I doubt attacking someone from behind while cloaked would be the most honerable thing to do.) =p




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#4 10 years ago

mmh, yeah but still. Have you seen the second a vs p movie? The predator just smashed through the floor of a sewer!




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#5 10 years ago

No I haven't. But still, solid rock/concrete is something different than a titanium wall on a starship for example. I wouldn't expect a Hirogen to run through a wall like that, nor would I expect that from a Yautja. We have seen Predators hurt and bleeding from weaponsfire, even wooden stakes. We also saw on Voyager that Hirogen hunters were fired upon from a couple of Americans with machineguns during a WW2 simulation. It didn't seem to hurt them alot, though I must admit their armor helped alot here. But even then, their skin looks pretty tough. It looks a bit like crocodile skin or something. I think they can take a beating or two without taking to much damage.




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#6 10 years ago

predator...

both matches...

speed over size.




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#7 10 years ago
Tommy MK1;4594735No I haven't. But still, solid rock/concrete is something different than a titanium wall on a starship for example. I wouldn't expect a Hirogen to run through a wall like that, nor would I expect that from a Yautja. We have seen Predators hurt and bleeding from weaponsfire, even wooden stakes. We also saw on Voyager that Hirogen hunters were fired upon from a couple of Americans with machineguns during a WW2 simulation. It didn't seem to hurt them alot, though I must admit their armor helped alot here. But even then, their skin looks pretty tough. It looks a bit like crocodile skin or something. I think they can take a beating or two without taking to much damage.

the hirogen in "killing game" did take a nice hit from the german soldiers, but as you said their armor had much to do with it, on the other hand the beta that took command and hunted janeway was killed by one bullet (or just punched back and died by falling down a few stories) ... the yautja on the other hand was hit in pred1 with almost everything the marines had and still could get away (!) hurt and bleeding yes, but still on his feet >> mac emptied his entire clip onto him and continued firing with the minigun, while he was still close enough ... so, for the mean-factor i'd go with the predator

in a hand to hand combat, without any weapons, they'd probably be equal or so, but when fighting with weapons: i think that the predators weaponry gives him the edge over a hirogen as said: plasma caster combined with his very advanced targeting system or the disc/spear/wristblades/cutting-net ...

while into matter, we can also try to pitch species8472 vs a xenomorph ... :p




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#8 10 years ago
Tommy MK1;4594735No I haven't. But still, solid rock/concrete is something different than a titanium wall on a starship for example. I wouldn't expect a Hirogen to run through a wall like that, nor would I expect that from a Yautja. We have seen Predators hurt and bleeding from weaponsfire, even wooden stakes. We also saw on Voyager that Hirogen hunters were fired upon from a couple of Americans with machineguns during a WW2 simulation. It didn't seem to hurt them alot, though I must admit their armor helped alot here. But even then, their skin looks pretty tough. It looks a bit like crocodile skin or something. I think they can take a beating or two without taking to much damage.

the hirogen in "killing game" did take a nice hit from the german soldiers, but as you said their armor had much to do with it, on the other hand the beta that took command and hunted janeway was killed by one bullet (or just punched back and died by falling down a few stories) ... the yautja on the other hand was hit in pred1 with almost everything the marines had and still could get away (!) hurt and bleeding yes, but still on his feet >> mac emptied his entire clip onto him and continued firing with the minigun, while he was still close enough ... so, for the mean-factor i'd go with the predator

in a hand to hand combat, without any weapons, they'd probably be equal or so, but when fighting with weapons: i think that the predators weaponry gives him the edge over a hirogen as said: plasma caster combined with his very advanced targeting system or the disc/spear/wristblades/cutting-net ...

while into matter, we can also try to pitch species8472 vs a xenomorph ... :p




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#9 10 years ago

The Predator would absolutely decimate the Hirogen without too much trouble. And then, just to add insult to injury, 20th Century Fox would come along and beat the Hirogen master, Paramount, into submission for copyright infringement.




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#10 10 years ago

hahaha matt finishes both!




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