I might be wrong however this weapon is legal to use in most/all leagues right? Also I use this panzer and kill many yes. However I can also pull out a pistol and still take out 2-3 more guys. To respond to this being a weapon for noobs. It might be however I have yet to find someone who can own me when they have a panzer. I think it is just the lack of skill when fighting against a panzer. I feel that for thos who complaining about the panzer. They are just mad cause they dont know how to fight against them.
Just my .2 cents
WOW. The Allies generals in WWII must feel like total morons. If only they were intelligent enough to whine and cry and get the German's to ban the use of the Panzerfaust(I'm sure they would have agreed, I mean, it's ONLY a World War, who wants to use any means possible to win?) the war would have been MUCH different. Good thing all these intelligent people are here to point out where they went wrong.
P.S. For everyone who is about to post : "But this is a game, not WWII". This is a WWII based FPS game. Therefore, the programmers included some of the major weapons used by infantry in WWII, and YES the Panzerfaust was one of them. As previously stated, the Panzerfaust had many variations and one of them was an anti-personnel model. This was used in many major battles for the specific reason of taking out concetrated groups of enemy personnel. hmmmmmm, wonder why it does that in the game. In short.......get a pacifier baby, if you don't like it then play a different game.
Well, for the last poster, if we want to get into the nitty-gritty, the Luger was no used much at all in WWII, it was replaced early on by a Walther handgun. I do agree that it's stupid to want the Panzer banned, but at the same time, I wonder why RTCW decided to let both teams use it. It would have been better to do something like what Medal of Honor did (god that game sucks though) and give both teams a type of rocket launcher. Yes, the panzers are cheap as hell, but it's part of the game, and you must live with it! For the people who complain about the panzers in close-quarters, RUN WHEN YOU HEAR THE SQUEAL! The sound, and the length of time required to fire the weapon were put into the game to make it more fair. All the weapons have some way to defend. Flamers have the lighting and sound, and they have limited range. I kill flamers rushing at me all the time in both games. Venoms take forever to get spinning, and you can hear them spinning. They are more cheap than panzers when it comes to the Depot level. Snipers are.. well, hard to defend against. You usually die three or four times before finding the ass. When you find him though, he's easy prey. It's so fun to just put a knife in a sniper's neck. MP40s and Thompsons are the hardest to defend against, in my opnion. I dodge and duck panzers all the time, but if I go against a good player who has an MP40? I just have to hope I can jump around and land a few good shots, otherwise, I'm toast. Also of note is the handgun. It seems worthless, but in ET, when you get akimbo pistols, you can kick just about anyone's ass if you're a good aim. I've seen many players spawn, and switch straight to pistols. RTCW requires more shots to be good with a pistol, but it's possible to take out several guys with your pistol. What would be nice is if you could pick up an enemy's pistol and swap the ammo out. Same with the MP40 and Thompson. The Walther AND the Luger had models that were capable of swapping with a standard .45 1911A.
[QUOTE=Gnaget]"Its not the guy who kills 5 people with the pansiefast, those guys I don't mind, at least they have a purpose. Its the Kamazaie PZers who use it in hand to hand battle. The guy who wants the frag, even knowing it will kill him. I was playing trenchtoast, not inches from a pzer using his pistol. He immediately pulled out his PZ, took us both out."
As for meeting a panzer in a firefight and getting blasted, I only have one thing to say - "Practice your shooting, alot" If you meet a panzer close quarters and he has time to switch to his panzer(even n00bs dont just run around with their panzer out), which takes .5 secs, plus fire his shot, which takes approx 1 sec. Then you have some serious aiming issues. A MP40 fires off approx 6 shots per sec and a Thompson fires off approx 5 shots per sec. Assuming that you are at least decent enough to hit a slow moving panzer soldier with almost 0 mobility, you have the ability of unloading a minimum of 7 shots in 1.5 secs(this is assuming that the panzer has lightning quick reflexes and switches to his panzer immediately). Thats at least 120 points of damage(without getting a headshot)..........before the panzer even gets a chance to fire. Now, we all know that a panzer soldier only has a max of 100 points of HP. So, if you get into a firefight with a panz and lose(especially when you had the dude 2v1), it's your fault, not the panzers. He was going to die anyways(hopefully the both of you are at least good enough to kill a pistol soldier before he pistol whips BOTH of you) and he had the opportunity to take 2 enemies with him. I don't see any problem with that, in fact that's a good move on the panzers part in my eyes. gg
ok, i don't know if anyone in this forum plays ET, i played rtcw for 2 years and now am a advid ETer, (though rtcw is still my fav game) anyway, the clan i am in plays alot of scrims and leagues...and panzsers are perfectly legal in matches. actually they are a very effective weapon in the right hands..a skill full player useing one can really affect the tide of the game. and in et you can use a smg and a panzer at the same time so you can become even more effective..
as for it being a tool for the noobs..a noob with any weapon is useless..in rtcw if your geting spawn killed on beach...well go around. pretty hard huh. same with et...the cool thing about et is that it restricts the number of panzers you can have on one team. in the hands of a skilled player..let the terror begin.
as for spawncamping..if any of you have ever played leagues...if you can spawn camp you damn well do. the only things that count is not useiing cheats (really hate those a@@'s) and the big W wining. panzers are part of the game so live with it. if you dohn't like it, find another game or a server with crybabys on it that don't allow panzers..
just my 2 cents
Yeah, panzers..... Of course it's an effective weapon in the hands of a skilled player, but I HATE THEM SO MUCH!! The more when you pass them, they just shoot and we both get blown up. Like a guy from palestina, nice terror. I just hate them! Sooooo much! I only like the sound when I step aside fast enough and he's missing me on several inches:nodding: :nodding: :nodding: BBWHOOEEESSZZ
Nice, topic started in 2002.......... it's 2004 now........:uhoh: But that don't mean the panzers are less frustrating.!
They should make a movie: The Neverending Thread It could have a kid that reads books a lot and a giant white fluffy flying dog!
BTW, in an ET mod I just submitted yesterday, I lowered panzers to half speed, and much less splash damage. They can however kill a tank in one shot, as well as gib a player on direct hit.
I didn't know they had that kind of airplanes in 1944...:cool: :cheers: