Im getting sick off all the people that try to kick me whenever i use the panzer. im not one of the people that sit near a spawn point. i run around and take out groups of the enemy that are attacking. while it is recharging i can allways take out 1 or 2 with gernades. with im very proficient at. the people that usually complain are the people in clans. i think they do this because they want to act like they are hardcore really good players but just like to bitch about panzers. i dont use it all the time and am really good at the other classes but it really pisses me off when people complain about a decent panzer use.
Originally posted by CerealKiller Im getting sick off all the people that try to kick me whenever i use the panzer. im not one of the people that sit near a spawn point. ...but it really pisses me off when people complain about a decent panzer use.
I think we dislike the Panzer and the sniper so much because there is no way to fight back like in a gun battle...one on one or whatever. Usually, you get surprised and are dead...in a gun battle, at least you have a chance to survive even if your health is really low at the end of the fight.
I have mixed emotions regarding both...hate when they are used against me and love those that are good with either and are on my team :D :D Let em vote, your teammates should keep you in and the other side that wants to kick you is just confirming that you know what you are doing. So...they prove that you are having an effect on the game and your team should thank you for it. :agreed: :agreed: The only time I really dislike the Faust or snipers is when almost all the soldiers on my team are one or the other. Winning a stage is done "upclose and personal"...not from long range. If they are all sitting back sniping, there usually isn't enough support to get to the objective and plant dyno or carry the docs to the radio...
I don't have a problem with panzers who take out a group. The problem is the majority of pzers who use the weapon because obviously they don't know how to fight with a gun. Far too many times have I been taken down by a pzer who attacked me at close range only to kill himself as well. Or the person who camps by a flag or the objective to take the one person down who gets close. These people hurt the team more than they help by their lack of abilities, and are very annoying to those who take down 5 enemies on their way to the objective only to be taken down by a kamazie pzer.
very true. I dont like panzers all together, no offense, its just the thought of shooting a anti tank gun at ppl is weird. If you never camp or shoot ppl on obj then thats ok but isnt everyone going for the obj and i usually dont see a panzer running after enemies...the usually kill the ones that are close....snipers i have no problem with, never seen anyone complain about it...also cuz snipers that find a great spot and does decent kills means hes a good player...sniping is like shooting one machine gun bullet that kills in one or two hits, you still need to aim at the target. Panzers on the other hand can be 15+ feet off the target and still hit him with metal and kill him...seems boring to use a panzer also...u dont use any skill.....i get sick of a corner that is covered with smoke grenades but the added panzers makes it just stupid. The only way to make it fair would to make panzers have 2 shots and the ammo packs didnt give more, then they could kill 3-4 with rockets (about the same as a good luiet) and then go on a handgun run or grenade run and kill 1-2. Well to end it, panzers dont use skill and ppl like you when u kill and are skills not just blow them up in a tunnel or shoot randomly from 500 ft away. Just my opinion and about 5000 others :).
Well, my theory has always been to each his own. I have used the PZ in very few circumstances. Beach when there are a tons defending the war room, a PZ or 2 can come in handy to take a few out. I've done this once as a last resort. The other was MP depot. The front was in the trains, many axis holding back the allies we couldn't get to the spawn flag. A couple pz shots well aimed down the train helped a lot. When I see a pzer, I don't try to vote them off, but when I get killed by a kamakazie, which is usually the case, I get seriously annoyed. What good is a kill only to kill yourself.
Originally posted by Gnaget I don't have a problem with panzers who take out a group. The problem is the majority of pzers who use the weapon because obviously they don't know how to fight with a gun.
:agreed: Good point...I thought I was the only one that felt this way...
Panzers are in the game for a reason.. to be used. People who think panzers are 'annoying' obviously have no idea the potential of the weapon. First of all, there is tons of ways to compete AGAINST a panzer. They have to charge up. A few well placed shots, and the panzer is dead before the shot fires. Another, when you know your ass is in the line of fire, move. Get behind a wall, a few boxes. Several options there (thank you mappers). A skilled panzer user however, will kill you 90% of the time. I for one use the panzer a ton. It's a powerful weapon. You can shoot at single enemies. Thats cheap. Taking out 3+ is alright though. I'm a great pistol shot too, so there isnt much reason to worry once the panzer is shot. One thing that IS annoying about the panzers.. is the tk probability. Learning how to switch weapons mid warm up. It's all key, and depends on the player.
Originally posted by Alpine A skilled panzer user however, will kill you 90% of the time.
There is no such thing, as we have been saying, no skill necessary. Many of them hang back in the map and shoot randomly into places typically populated by the enemy in hopes of getting a kill. Others will go kamakazi and take out themselves as well as one enemy. I mentioned earlier, there are uses, but the reason we hate it so much is 99% of panzer users use it only because they are incapable of using a halfway decent weapon.
There is no defense for the weapon, If they are close enough that you can hear the warm up, you will both die. If they are far away the only warning is the flaming projectile. Almost impossible to get away from.
panzers arnt skilled in any sort...shooting a rocket that has a 10 ft explosion radius doesnt make for any skill. i admit at times a panzer has skill like sneeking his rocket into my hidding spot from far away...i used to be a panzerholic and then one day while playing some guy, Dragon, kicked me for using a panzer and he never told me...thats not the reason...the reason was he was USING IT ALSO...so i got pissed at him....his server is all toysoldier floating crap anyway but i just though that a panzer that is bad at being a panzer kicked me cuz i was good at being a panzer so i stoped...ppl dont have good reason to kick ppl when u get in a gunfight cuz the other dude always lands some bullets in. Just the point of panzers being AT wpns makes me not want to use them....even though rtcw isnt the most realistic WWII game :lol: