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Flash525

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#1 9 years ago

Star Trek XI aside, if you could completely rewrite everything that we've ever seen on any Trek show, or Trek movie, what would you do, where would you go, and how would you go about it? Currently, we've gone as far back as First Contact and the launch of the Phoenix, and as far forward as the Enterprise-J. Personally, I would do my up most best to keep Trek within five centuries, starting with the 21st. We'd see the creation of warp drive, probably via a movie to start things off. The movie wouldn't be space exploration so much, but rather would be the science behind warp drive, and the fallout of WW3. Then we'd jump into a series (possibly Enterprise), though a lot of the storyline would change. In essence, the only thing that would stick would be the time frame. Something that would cover the first warp five ship, along with the foundation of the Federation. Lets say we run this for 10 seasons? We'd find out more about the Vulcan's and Andorians, typically sticking to canon Trek as we know it. This would all take place in the late 21st, early 22nd Century, and would cover the Alpha Quadrant. Following that, we'd probably have a movie that surrounds the Human-Romulan War. This would serve as the in-between for the first and second series. The second series would (or could) run for another 10 seasons, and would cover the late 22nd century, and early 23rd. This would deal more with the Klingons, and the Neutral Zone, maybe giving us some more detail on the Tholians, Gorn, Knziti etc too. We could also have ships venture into the Beta Quadrant more here... Then, maybe we could have another two movies, that would essentially cover 'The Lost Era'. Maybe introduce the Cardassians and Breen? This would pave the way for a TNG based show, which would include various DS9 based storylines, such as the Dominion War, and various Borg Incursions. This series would also include (and cover) exploration of the Gamma Quadrant. We'd then have another movie, that could maybe introduce the Federation venturing into the Delta Quadrant. This series would be set in the 25th century. This could maybe follow on with a movie, either which covers the collapse of the Federation, or somehow mentions the exploration of the Andromeda Galaxy at some point. One thing I would completely exclude, is time travel, and mirror universes etc. Sorry, but I think shows (all except Doctor Who) can do without them. In addition, each 'power' would have more than... five specific ship classes, all of which would be fairly detailed, and unique. In addition to that, these would be different per series too, such as you wouldn't see a refit of a TOS ship in a TNG episode. Minor powers we'd not need to worry with so much, as they're minor. And the Borg WOULD be badass. No Intrepid Class ships flying about, taking out Borg fleets. And I think, that would pretty much cover it. Four shows, and six movies.




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#2 9 years ago
Star Trek XI aside, if you could completely rewrite everything that we've ever seen on any Trek show, or Trek movie, what would you do, where would you go, and how would you go about it?

Thinking about it, I'd make Starfleet more military oriented than its exploration themed ideals, honestly. I also want to change some flawed concepts and ideas not explored in ST, here's a few: - The concept of an average "away team" comprised of lightly armed senior officers has been bugging me since I first saw it. I'd rather send a special forces unit of sorts (fed marines/ hazard team) for cover If I were to scout a dangerous planet/ship/station etc. - Emphasis on fleet battle groups like the US Navy. If you want to explore space, make sure you have support ships to rely on. I never really saw the point of sending a lone ship to explore the unknown. You'd be quite vunerable if a Starbase is too far. - I never liked the jumpsuit styled Starfleet uniform designs. Make em like TWOK's militaristic styled version. - Would Seatbelts help? You know, less crew flying around when you get attacked...:lol: - Moar sentient spaceborne lifeforms? - Oh, and feature a planet as an Ecumenopoplis, I'm sure some civilaztion may have achieved that already. With the exception of the Borg of course. =p - Some others that deserve to be changed, as compiled by Bernd, here's some of Trek's lolworthy cliches: Ex Astris Scientia - Star Trek Clich├ęs I have more, but you get the idea. I seriously want to get rid of ST's cheeziness. But then again, if you take out too much, its not ST anymore...

Personally, I would do my up most best to keep Trek within five centuries, starting with the 21st. We'd see the creation of warp drive, probably via a movie to start things off. The movie wouldn't be space exploration so much, but rather would be the science behind warp drive, and the fallout of WW3. Then we'd jump into a series (possibly Enterprise), though a lot of the storyline would change. In essence, the only thing that would stick would be the time frame. Something that would cover the first warp five ship, along with the foundation of the Federation. Lets say we run this for 10 seasons? We'd find out more about the Vulcan's and Andorians, typically sticking to canon Trek as we know it. This would all take place in the late 21st, early 22nd Century, and would cover the Alpha Quadrant. Following that, we'd probably have a movie that surrounds the Human-Romulan War. This would serve as the in-between for the first and second series. The second series would (or could) run for another 10 seasons, and would cover the late 22nd century, and early 23rd. This would deal more with the Klingons, and the Neutral Zone, maybe giving us some more detail on the Tholians, Gorn, Knziti etc too. We could also have ships venture into the Beta Quadrant more here... Then, maybe we could have another two movies, that would essentially cover 'The Lost Era'. Maybe introduce the Cardassians and Breen? This would pave the way for a TNG based show, which would include various DS9 based storylines, such as the Dominion War, and various Borg Incursions. This series would also include (and cover) exploration of the Gamma Quadrant. We'd then have another movie, that could maybe introduce the Federation venturing into the Delta Quadrant. This series would be set in the 25th century. This could maybe follow on with a movie, either which covers the collapse of the Federation, or somehow mentions the exploration of the Andromeda Galaxy at some point.

No argument here, this seems to be a well thought out story outline. Sounds good IMO :bows:

One thing I would completely exclude, is time travel, and mirror universes etc. Sorry, but I think shows (all except Doctor Who) can do without them.

Considering its been overused, yea...




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#3 9 years ago

Stop going back and forth through time! Just deal with the human experience, now.




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#4 9 years ago
Jetfreak;4813453- Would Seatbelts help? You know, less crew flying around when you get attacked...:lol:

Fuck yeah, this. People always end up dying due to headwounds when they go into battle (especially in Voy). Red alert should mean every man at a station needs to wear a seatbelt and a helmet, as does everyone else. Get rid of workstations where you need to stand, what is this shit? let them sit down for christ sake. Also, reinforce the god damn ceiling, how many times does ensign jimmy have to die due to some falling bulkhead. It's the future, jesus christ!.

Also put the bridge in the center of the ship. What retard puts the bridge "outside" when you are not gonna have viewports anyway? It's a good thing trek era ships have worse tracking systems than our surface navy with it's crude balistic weapons or every battle would be over when the dorsal shield failed.

Anyway, sorry. :p




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#5 9 years ago
Jetfreak;4813453Thinking about it, I'd make Starfleet more military oriented than its exploration themed ideals, honestly.[/QUOTE] Agreed. :nodding: They don't have to take the first shot, but for God sake; defend yourself when someone fires on you for no reason! Don't just raise your shields and stand there like an idiot; taking fire until half of your ship systems are disabled. You have Phasers and Torpedos. Use them or lose them.
Jetfreak;4813453The concept of an average "away team" comprised of lightly armed senior officers has been bugging me since I first saw it. I'd rather send a special forces unit of sorts (fed marines/ hazard team) for cover If I were to scout a dangerous planet/ship/station etc.[/QUOTE] Agreed again. :nodding: Senior Officers should stay on the ship and send specially trained crewmembers (like the Hazard Team from Elite Force) armed with rifles that are set to heavy stun by default to do initial survey of an unknown territory. And if you meet hostile forces who'd rather see you dead than talk to you, don't waste your time playing with the Tricorder (no, not with me :p), trying to figure out height, weight and gender of enemy forces. Just aim, fire and scan later. [QUOTE=Jetfreak;4813453]Emphasis on fleet battle groups like the US Navy. If you want to explore space, make sure you have support ships to rely on. I never really saw the point of sending a lone ship to explore the unknown. You'd be quite vunerable if a Starbase is too far.
Agreed again. :nodding: What is the point of sending just one ship into the unknown? For God sake, Jim! :D Beside the possibility of encountering some alien ship who's Captain is trigger-happy, there are other kinds of dangers too, like various space anomalies where ships could aid each other in various ways. What if one ship loses Warp Core containment field or something else treatens to destroy the ship? Other ships could easily beam the crew of the doomed ship to safety while scanning that ship in an attempt to determine the reason for it's imminent destruction. More ships = more sensors = more informations. Simple and effective. [QUOTE=Jetfreak;4813453]I never liked the jumpsuit styled Starfleet uniform designs. Make em like TWOK's militaristic styled version.

Umm... I have to partially disagree with you here. I like both uniform designs equally. However, if I had to choose between them, I'd take jumpsuit design. Sorry, Jet. Are we still forum friends? :D




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#6 9 years ago
Tas;4815441Also put the bridge in the center of the ship. What retard puts the bridge "outside" when you are not gonna have viewports anyway?[/quote] Blame tradition and Roddenberry's ship design guidelines... However, the Defiant could be an exception, the bridge is sinked into the main hull IIRC. [quote=Tricorder;4815734]Agreed. :nodding: They don't have to take the first shot, but for God sake; defend yourself when someone fires on you for no reason! Don't just raise your shields and stand there like an idiot; taking fire until half of your ship systems are disabled. You have Phasers and Torpedos. Use them or lose them.
Agreed again. :nodding: Senior Officers should stay on the ship and send specially trained crewmembers (like the Hazard Team from Elite Force) armed with rifles that are set to heavy stun by default to do initial survey of an unknown territory. And if you meet hostile forces who'd rather see you dead than talk to you, don't waste your time playing with the Tricorder (no, not with me :p), trying to figure out height, weight and gender of enemy forces. Just aim, fire and scan later.

Yes. You are better safe than sorry. Plus, less redshirts to spend eh? :lol:

Umm... I have to partially disagree with you here. I like both uniform designs equally. However, if I had to choose between them, I'd take jumpsuit design. Sorry, Jet. Are we still forum friends? :D

Of course, we are still friends.:cool:




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#7 9 years ago
Jetfreak;4819071Yes. You are better safe than sorry. Plus, less redshirts to spend eh? :lol:[/QUOTE] Exactly. :nodding: I can't even describe how stupid and easy to prevent some Star Trek deaths were. Oh, I forgot to say this in my previous post. Regarding dealing with ship intruders. Instead of sending poorly armed crewmembers to their death, how about just beaming the intruders out in Space or at least to the Brig? I mean, intruder alert has been sounded. That means intruders are visible on internal sensors. So why not simply using the Transporter to get rid of them? Ok, I admit; there are cases when the Transporter can't be used for some reason, but when it can be used, use it, for frak sake and save lives of your crew. [QUOTE=Jetfreak;4819071]Of course, we are still friends.:cool:

Oh good. I was afraid you might smack me with TWOK uniform. :lol:




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#8 9 years ago

^ Very good points there. That beaming to space idea should be used more often.. Another thing to improve in ST is the Borg. Their ships ooze might, but their cybernetic "enhancements" to assimilated bodies leave a lot to be desired. If I'd redesign em, I'd make em more like Grievous from SW. Imagine the ownage of drones with superhuman agility and speed. It'd be more effecient and perfect for assimilating.




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#9 9 years ago

Don't forget the cough! They all must have that nasty cough, just like Grievous. :D Imagine this: We are the *cough cough* Borg. You will be *cough cough* assimilated. Lower your *cough cough* shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctivness to our own. *cough cough* Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is *cough cough* futile! *cough* :p




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#10 9 years ago

lulz, would make them look sickly then :p I blame the shitty chest construction




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