Ok, since basicly everyone seems to pan Abrams trek (plus Enterprise) .........
What do YOU think would be a good new movie/series ?
To make it easy, lets say a movie leading into a series.
Actually something like star trek xi, but then in the style of the dominion wars.
I really loved the style of JJ. I think if, he would make this with a defiant class ship and a huge federation fleet going in war with an unknown race that wants to wipe out the galaxy. I think the man could make a tremendous scifi fight. I was already drooling with the simple fight of the kelvin, what if he made that with the defiant (let's say post nemesis era) and the federation klingon romulan etc. Galaxy class ships in close up, firing phasers, torpedoes, etc. I think it would be great. Leaving a superb ending that they pushed back the enemy fleet. The federation (please no 1200 ships, more like 50 to 100 thousands of ships). With an ending that you see a wormhole opening and thousands of enemy ships entering the galaxy, with a message saying, you will be slaughtered or so.. and then a new series starts trying to wipe out the fleet that is spreading through the galaxy and with let's say season 6 or 7, that the feds and the alliance drive them back to their galaxy, and they are going in for the assault.. the season of that serie should not be 20 episodes per season but 10 or so?
Aerilon;5393064Given the chance, I'd start a movie in the same period as Kirk, set around 2250. It wouldn't be focused on a specific ship or crew, but rather, on a specific set of characters, one or two of which would be captains of their specific ships.
The Enterprise would feature, though only for a short scene, either in a fight, or in some dry dock, maybe it'll feature her launch? The Constitution Class would be redesigned again too; there was a design by someone who goes by the name of MadKoiFish - quite possibly the best Constitution redesign I've ever seen.
I think also, that I'd re-write 'The Federation'. From what we know of typical Trek, the Federation is a combination of multiple species, working together. Yet, there are never any other such factions that have been formed. I know the Dominion were suppose to initially be such a system, though because of cashflow, they eventually became three species only; Founders, Vorta and Jem Hadar.
I'd probably keep the Federation as Human only (maybe just rename them Starfleet), but have them very good friends with the Andorians and Vulcans; as such, it would easily explain why Andorians and Vulcans are serving on Earth vessels.
The general plot of the blockbuster would ultimately have the Romulan's play the part of the 'bad guys', though their presence wouldn't be known until well late in the film. This idea comes from ST: Enterprise, Season 4 - Babel One, United, and the Aenar.
I'd have the film start with three Klingon Birds of Prey (another new design, based off the common one) attacking an unknown vessel, possibly Cardassian? This would be taking place within Federation space, and would have two Federation ships (of different design) going to intercept, essentially sending the Klingon's packing; I wouldn't have the Klingon ships destroyed here, only attacked.
If I would decide to use a Cardassian ship, then again, like the Enterprise, this would only be a short part of the film, and we wouldn't see them again.
Unlike the Enterprise arc, the Romulan's wouldn't be using drones in this film either, but actual ships instead; the only ships to feature cloaking devices too. They'd probably some form of Bird of Prey, or Warbird, no doubt that would be another design. This we would see near the end of the film, potentially being in combat with both Klingon and Federation forces.
I'd make the Klingon's pure warriors too, though ones of honor. Something along the lines of the DS9 Klingon's, but without the friendly, relaxed feel to them. More General Chang's and Kurn's than the Gowron's and Martok's.
In this film, or at least this universe, there would be at least three new designs of Klingon ship (one of which may resemble the new D7 design), two each for the Romulan and Cardassian sides, and probably six or seven for the Federation. I'd stay away from kit-bashing too, I find it cheap. Obviously you'd have your Constitution, and I'd have a few other designs that worked well for their purpose.
I'd also have Archer mentioned, maybe a glimpse of an NX Class (though not THE NX Class). If ST: Enterprise were to have existed in this Universe of mine, what we'd have seen would be quite different. No Xindi, no temporal incursion, no jumping through time etc.
In addition, the Constitution would be larger (though not quite as big as the Abrams version), and would house some 600 odd crew. She'd be of the Heavy Cruiser type, and I've grown to like the new phasers weapons introduced in the Abrams verse, so would probably implement them too.
I'd, you know, make a movie that was true to the origonal.
Think the enterprise mirror universe episode, TOS trek can look freaking awsome with CGI.
Past that, I'd do a new ship/crew, and avoid pulling enemies out of nowere.
I'd also ignore the new crap trek stuff.
Remans, Enterprise, and Abrams, it'd all be ignored, and contradicted if nessacary.
Voice of joy and sunshine
26th May 2003
Get away from Starfleet. The point of Enterprise was that everything was being solved with tech and they wanted to move away from that - the downside was they ended up trampling all over cannon and pissing folks off. Not to mention they'd pretty much mined out that vein of stories/character dynamics.
Maybe do something with the Maquis, I always felt there was a lot of potential there. No really big starships. Under-equipped under supplied renegades trying to get by and do a bit of good without being too evil. Sounds like fun.
If you do that, your viewers will go down in less than a month. It will be boring as there would be no huge technology babbles.. Heavy dog fights? yes, but that's about it..
Nemmerle;5416401Get away from Starfleet. The point of Enterprise was that everything was being solved with tech and they wanted to move away from that - the downside was they ended up trampling all over cannon and pissing folks off. Not to mention they'd pretty much mined out that vein of stories/character dynamics.
No, they just had all of the technobable be based on the same tech's prototype version.
Transporters ? Sure, make them 'new' and not work all the time, such as when that guy got beamed up in a windstorm and the debries in the air were imbeded into his face.
Photon torpedos ? Call them photonic instead, but make them look the same.
Phasers ? Call them 'phase cannons/pistols' and have them be functionaly the same.
Tricorders ? Give the vulcan one, yeah sure youbetcha, its vulcan tech and ignore than Vulcan a was a founding UFP member and if they'd had something like that then by kirks time it would have easily been given to starfleet, resulting in something that wasnt bulky as all get out.......
List goes on. The fact was that Enterprise mostly had crap scripts, and the production team was unwilling or unable to tell the writers a simple 'no' when it came to re-using quite a few tired plots that had been used several times before, or in some cases as I recall the whole plot of the episode was to emphesize how 'new' and 'unreliable' the new tech was, nevermind that it looked higher tech than in TOS.......
17th June 2002
The ideas here list huge fights (tens of thousands of starships? Fighting for no reason? AWESOME!), Romulan incursions and various similar ideas.
None of them pick up on what made Star Trek popular in the first place, and this is why the series has died and is exactly why Abrams has turned it into a Hollywood action CGI-fest.