I was playing beach invason the other day and kept getting spawn killed:mad: I was on the allied team and the axis snuck behing the beach and went back into the water where it is dark and shot ppl as soon as they spawend. They must have got 20 kills or so before they were finaly killed. They then said that they had more skill than us. I have enconterd spawn killing on other maps too. The spawn killers uslly use panzers (another reason I think they should not have been include in multiplayer mode). Why do assholes like that have to ruin the game for every one else its not like they were loseing or anthing so I cant figure out why they where doing it. It really pisses me off that a few retards have to ruin things for every one else every time. It dosn't mater what it is theres always some one there to ruin it for every boddy. Well I just had to get that off my chest sorry if your a spawn killing asshole and were offend by this thread.
Ok #1 I never have seen any rules that say u cannot spawn kill and another thing Panzers are used to clear massive areas like the beach... And everytime i run into one of u guyz i ask u on the server WUT the hell do u want? U want a desiginated killing zone so u can get the docs and i cant stop u? Seems to me thats wut most of u want is a easy way out.....So u lost a Few rounds or so its called fight back get some lt's and Bomb the hell outta em or Panzer em back...dun whine about it This is a war type game NOT QUAKE where there was such a thing as spawn killing and Thats when it mattered But not here and theres alot more reasons why they do that and i bet if u had the chance you would storm the beach and go after them if u were on axis>? think about wut yur saying cuz u do it too u just dun realize it.....My point is there is no such thing as a Spawn killer nor Spawn Camping
Imagin if it was your team and your entire team kept geting wiped out before they had a chance to turn around and fight back as soon as they spawn so you dont even get a chance to play!!!!! You miss understand me I'm not talking about shooting at the beach with panzers from the pill boxes in the axis base. What im talking about is axis hideing in the water BEHIND the beach and killing the alies before thay can evern turn around. Thats not playing the game thats keeping others from playing wich is wrong evern if it is not agenst the rules. How can you panzer some one back when your dead before you can turn around and aim at them. I understand using the panzer to wipe out masses of enimes but using it to kill entire teams before they have the chance to move to feet from the spawn point over and over agin is just being a poor sport. Storming the beach is alot differnt from hiding behind it and killing players as soon as they spawn. In a storm the stormies have a chance but if you spawn kill they have no chance at all and it ruins the game for every one. You say there is no such thing as spawn killing and camping in this game well I want to here you dffinition of this than campare it to the above snerio and tell me what you would call it.
I gotta agree, spawn killers take the fun out of the game. I just find a different server with better players.
Sorry, dude, :( in this case I have to agree with Hellraiser*EF*...a few months ago I would have agreed with you and if you try hard enough, you will find a post or 2 of mine that b*tch about your problem. Lately, I have been playing with the same team every time I get ingame and its obvious now that Spawn Killing or Spawn Camping or whatever you want to call it is an accepted part of the game not only to them but to alot of the other players or teams we come up against.
Having said that, let me make a few comments :uhm: Hellraiser*EF* said that you need to get Lts or whatever and fight back. Let's look at your example of the Beach...when you started the stage, did anyone Faust the upper and lower bunkers?? The axis spawn there...isn't that Spawn Killing?? I've been in games where we don't move out of the lower bunker fast enough and 3-5 of us get wiped out by that Faust shot. Killed in my spawn by the enemy, therefore, Spawn killing, right?
How did they get so deep into your lines...they didn't spawn behind you...you and your teammates couldn't keep them out and don't forget, the Axis spawn way up in the upper bunkers and have to move the entire beach to get in behind you. You and your team should have kept them off the beach in the first place...sorry, you guys weren't good enough to do that.
SOOOOOOO...learn to kill the Spawn killers and learn how to make them work for you. They can't kill all of you all of the time...I've seen stages lost cause we were so busy killing enemies in their spawn that we missed a couple and they were able to get through and plant the Tower or whatever. Also, Camping is not always the best strategy...if necessary, use it...if you can keep the enemy bottled up in front of you, going to their spawn could cause you problems as your defense may become over extended and then, like I said, they get behind you. I've been in a number of game both with my team and on pub servers where the enemy was so busy Camping us that we were able to get guys through to the objective and win with no problem cause all the enemy were busy at our spawn. My team and I use it as necessary, we don't plan our defense around it but will use it, and have had it used against us, if it will help win the stage...That is the key...win the stage...didn't we bomb the snot out of Germany and Japan...seems to me that was the ultimate in Spawn killing...never let the enemy get out of his home. Worked in WWII and most everyone thought it was a good idea. Some objected to killing women and children, as we should, but the front line fighter didn't have any problem facing fewer enemies...all he wanted was to survive and go home...
Just my opinion
Many different viewpoints to this one, however the only time that spawn killing annoys me is when someone has big advantage, like if he is a adsl player and all others are modem. On levels like the beach a whole room full of axis can be wiped before they are even able to move.
Apart from that I agree with spider and hellraiser, if axis can advance far enough down beach then they deserve advantage. I have played on beach where axis team have got right down to water and shoot the crap out of us, yet when my team is on other side in stopwatch game we try same tactic and they still kick crap out of us, usually cause they have better team, more experienced players, more coordinated etc.
Have also been on some games where allies despite having numbers advantage don't even get to blow seawall cause they is just bad/inexperienced/not coordinated players. Have also noticed that spawn killing is sometimes teams own fault, like when some retard with panzerfaust stops in doorway of forward bunker and blocks way, everybody piles up behind and gets panzered, now that's annoying!
Originally posted by TheMaster Imagin if it was your team and your entire team kept geting wiped out before they had a chance to turn around and fight back as soon as they spawn so you dont even get a chance to play!!!!! You miss understand me I'm not talking about shooting at the beach with panzers from the pill boxes in the axis base. What im talking about is axis hideing in the water BEHIND the beach and killing the alies before thay can evern turn around.
Ok heres something u may want to take into consideration..right when u spawn u have 3 seconds of invincibitly so dun tell me u dun have time to turn around...If the panzer Fires it wont hurt so If ur still haveing a problem with this either fight back by making em waste a shot and go an get em or get off the beach fast...Or as many peeps would start to tell u Plez leave the server if u cant handle it...I have had an axis get behind me before personaly i had fun killin him i accomplished something that the whiners couldn't have cuz they are typing or trying to get him kicked...and another thing How would an axis get down there if yur team was spawning on the beach?? That panzer had to work his arse off to get down there to get you guyz and would give him a congrats cuz thats hard to do....Well sorry if i made u mad but its gotta be said im kinda sick of peeps complaining...
Thanx peeps Finnially someone starts to see wut i have been telling people for a long time now Thanx again...Spider and Kid....:):)
Personally, I take no offense at so-called spawn killers. I take this stance whether it is happening to me or my side is doing it to the opponents.
I usually use BEACH as an example since it is quite familiar.
If I am on allies, and the axis is so good that we can not even plant our dynamite, because they are wiping us out on the beach, then THEY are doing a good job. They have honed their skills and are working as a efficient team to plug any hole, to keep us from doing our objective--- period. Sure, it is humiliating to be on the receiving end of this, but WHO ever improves their skills if there is never any challenge in their lives? Fun? Well, it sure is rewarding when our team finally pulls together and pushes the axis back and we are finally able to get the objective and win. (and who is the humiliated one now?)
Give me a challenge! Use all the panzers, flame throwers and any suicide bombers you've got. RTCW would sure get boring fast if the opposing side didn't fight with all their might. And, don't you think RTCW would get a little dull, if you WON every single game you played?? "Spawn killing" is just part of the game for me (believe it or not, I rarely do it) but don't complain when I do, you are just asking me to not play with all my skill and ability.
Give ME all your got, and I will give YOU all I got and we'll see who wins.
Now who cant agree with Fledermaus!???? i mean hes saying like it is Lets Play it the way it was ment to be played and with all our skills going into the game that we got Thats wut makes the game great and it will never get old thats why were all addicted lol...:rock: :D :naughty:
Jeff does have a good point. Give me all you got!!!