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25th October 2005
I'm just wondering what the sequel would contain?
I guess now they have a "fresh slate" as it were to develop a new timeline upon they can re-do most of the original storylines.
One of the guys at the cinema when i saw it midnight wednesday-Thursday night (00:01 GMT 7th) they said that the "new" timeline allows them to basically do a BSG and do a new TOS Star Wars series if they wanted.
I was talking to my girlfriend about that after the movie. She expressed skepticism because she wasn't sure Zachary Quinto could juggle both "Heroes" and a new TV show at the same time, but I figured if the sequel comes out in 2011, does as well as this film probably will (I'm thinking a couple Academy Awards for SFX and a Best Supporting Actor nomination for Leonard Nimoy and/or Quinto, too), they can greenlight a new television series for 2012, by which time "Heroes" will be two years in the past and the cost of that flashy CGI will be low enough for the show to have visual consistency with the movies.
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25th October 2005
Well thats the great thing isn't it - They don't have to keep Zachaes Quinto for the role and to be honest i doubt they'll be able to keep Simon Pegg down either for a series.
Just look at Blade or the Sarah Connor Chronicles - in neither series did they use actors from the films.
That's true. Although Quinto and Pegg both did a great job and I'd love to see them stay for a series.
EDIT - And of course there could always be a shocking character death if they didn't want to replace Pegg.
yeah great movie and all just not sure what it had to do with STARTREK at least the Startrek i remember they have destroyed several things for me the cast was pretty good and the movie looked great but if you are a TRUE trek fan here is what they did !! SPOILER ALERT :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: THEY DESTROYED VULCAN only the second most important planet in the startrek series which means the following not only star treks 1 through 10 never happened but also erases the original series whichs vists vulcan and spocks mom it also erases the next generation which had several episodes concerning vulcan and spocks father who dies in the next generation timeline and his mother is there as well..and erases Deep Space Nine as well NEVER HAPPENED and Voyager !!!only the worst of the TV series is possible Enterprise!!!wow i wasted the better part of my life watching all that stuff that now never happened lol….. THATS why JJ is PERFECT for a show like LOST and maybe the LAST person for Startrek!!! Thanks….:):)
Hey BullDurham, it's okay! Maybe you were in the bathroom or didn't catch it, but as Ambassador Spock explained to Kirk on Delta Vega, Nero's time travel created an alternate reality in which things are different from the way they were in Spock's timeline (due to the death of George Kirk, the loss of the Kelvin, the destruction of Vulcan, etc.). However, the original timeline still exists (as seen at the end of "Countdown, Part Four"). So, don't worry - nothing has been erased! There's just a new, separate timeline to play with.
São Magnífico;4886914Hey BullDurham, it's okay! Maybe you were in the bathroom or didn't catch it, but as Ambassador Spock explained to Kirk on Delta Vega, Nero's time travel created an alternate reality in which things are different from the way they were in Spock's timeline (due to the death of George Kirk, the loss of the Kelvin, the destruction of Vulcan, etc.). However, the original timeline still exists (as seen at the end of "Countdown, Part Four"). So, don't worry - nothing has been erased! There's just a new, separate timeline to play with.
Great thanks now i feel way better lol are you serious sorry that dont save it for me lol:):):)
BullDurham;4886988Great thanks now i feel way better lol are you serious sorry that dont save it for me lol:):):)
It's really no different than a movie set post-Nemesis. You can still go back and watch the old series or the first ten films; they'll still be canon; there's still a story progressing in that timeline (Star Trek Online, for example) and it's still plenty worthwhile and entertaining to watch those. That wouldn't have really been "enhanced" if the movie had been set in the 2380s or the 25th century rather than in an alternate mid-23rd century. That canon still exists, and there are still going to be new stories in that timeline.
This movie is unbelievable!!(hard to imagine Star Trek being anymore real than this)the only thing I found cheesy about it is the Federation ship's main weapons(I mean common pulse phasers :bawl: )I really think this kind of weapon should remain in Star Wars. I realize that it is canon and all, that being the main arsenal for the TOS and TMP era's but the Starfleet vessels of the ENT era seems to now pack a much stronger punch with their Phased canons rather than those puny red pulse phaser looking crap. Other than that every second watching this movie is a treat, people actually clapped and wissled at the end(imagine that, something I haven't seen since Star Wars episode's I, II, and III was released on theatres for the first times). :nodding:
I just got back from the film, and it was spectacular.
You can whine about Tuvok and the phasers and whatever else you want. (Personally, I was a little off-put by the concept that a Romulan ship needed Vulcan help creating an artificial singularity-- that's what powers their engines, they can't do this themselves?)
The fact is, this film was made with the utmost respect for the original series. Every actor in the film was playing their parts with a devotion to the original that could have fallen into satire (I thought Kirk's horny nature was a bit too much in that regard, and poor Uhura getting shoehorned into the romantic bit part) or could've fallen well short. Instead, they excelled. They lit it up and they made it happen with an appreciable focus on where they go from here.
After all, what's lost in the shuffle of the "alternate reality" is that dramatic necessity requires them to tell us, "hey, audience? The original series happens in an alternate reality. That means no one's survival is assured in the long term." They could easily kill off whoever they wanted. Like Vulcan, for instance. (My only point of complaint on that score, to be perfectly honest, was that it fouls up "Amok Time", one of my favourite original series episodes.)
And really, look at the long term picture. No one was going to make a "next next generation" series. There was talk, but talk doesn't put money into the franchise. Amanda, the future of the Romulan Star Empire, even Vulcan and all the Vulcans who come thereafter.... I think that's a fair trade in our favourite scifi universe for a continued financial existence, and new adventures on film, for this franchise in the real universe.
Either way, I have to say, they couldn't have done better for Spock and Kirk, and Karl Urban as McCoy was quite possibly my favourite character in the whole film. He had the accent, the mannerisms, and even the subtleties of the character.... perfect! And having Leonard Nimoy along to pass the torch, so to speak, simply endowed a legitimacy on the entire enterprise (no pun intended).
I cannot wait to see where they take us next. They broke the odd/even curse, they have reincarnated Star Trek, and they've charted a course to the unknown. That's all I really need. And I couldn't be happier with the results.