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NCC1017spock

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#1 9 years ago

Ok everyone, the point of this thread is like a star fleet training center. You will get something like what I post below, and then you guys post an answer to the question "what would you do?" as if you where the captain. There is no right or wrong answers, you must do what you think is right. Just keep it realistic, and follow the scenario, you can not cheat your way out of it like kirk did. And so the trial begins-

Kobayashi Maru Scenario: Sickness, and its maker….

You are in command of a nova class scout ship, tasked with finding out the where about of a federation medical ship that went missing in this star system two days ago. There are several M class planets they could have crash landed on. Once you find out where they are, your orders are to contact star fleet to send several ships to help evacuate the crew and its special contents...

On board the medical ship, there was a large group of children infected with a rare super flu, which turns out to be a bio weapon the klingons tested on their home planet, and need treatment at the nearby star base, there is enough room on your ship to carry all of the kids. The data collected from them could save millions of lives, and they won’t have a chance of survival if they are stuck for one more day. And also was and computer filled with many files about what the star fleet medical crops have learned in the past 40 years. With huge amounts of secret data stored on it, the Klingons would find this extremely useful.

You locate the ship, and send a team down to the planet to meet them. Once you do, your scanners pick up a large, and heavily armed klingon fleet headed towards the system. They will most likely be look for the medical ship. And they will be in range of your ship in a minute.

You are very quickly running out of time, you only have time for one transport, and then you must leave the system, or face a fleet of klingon warships. You can transport the computer aboard, or the children, or your away team, which is made up of your chief medical officer, and first officer. Once you leave you cannot return, and the klingons will take who ever, and whatever you leave behind. If you send for help, the very few, and lightly armed federation ships that would arrive would be destroyed. And if you don’t leave in the next 60 seconds, you will be destroyed as well…..

What do you do?




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#2 9 years ago

Simple. I would beam the children up and order the away team to stay behind and destroy the computer to prevent the Klingons from getting their hands on the data. Then, I would immediately leave the system. As a Captain, I have a responsibility to the ship and my crew, so doing this would be a logical thing to do. "The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few or the one". If I have to choose between saving the large group of children or saving two of my Officers, I choose the children. Besides, every Starfleet Officer would give his/her life to save a child. As for the computer data; we'd just have to manage without them. 40 years of medical research is alot, but I would not sacrifice the lives of an innocent children to save a machine. And I certainly wouldn't let such valuable informations fall into an enemy hands. If the Federation survived without those informations so far, it certainly won't die without them. Besides, there's always a possibility that some kind of backup exists somewhere. Perhaps the Doctors and Scientists who worked on them are still alive and remember the data.

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Vjeko1701

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#3 9 years ago

I would save the computer, with the data from 40 years of research would benefit more federation citizens than just a group of kids of a few of my officers.




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#4 9 years ago

My away team!! I don't want them to be replaced!




Warborg

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#5 9 years ago
Tricorder;4954183Simple. I would beam the children up and order the away team to stay behind and destroy the computer to prevent the Klingons from getting their hands on the data. Then, I would immediately leave the system. As a Captain, I have a responsibility to the ship and my crew, so doing this would be a logical thing to do. "The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few or the one". If I have to choose between saving the large group of children or saving two of my Officers, I choose the children. Besides, every Starfleet Officer would give his/her life to save a child. As for the computer data; we'd just have to manage without them. 40 years of medical research is alot, but I would not sacrifice the lives of an innocent children to save a machine. And I certainly wouldn't let such valuable informations fall into an enemy hands. If the Federation survived without those informations so far, it certainly won't die without them. Besides, there's always a possibility that some kind of backup exists somewhere. Perhaps the Doctors and Scientists who worked on them are still alive and remember the data.

:agreed:




Jetfreak

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#6 9 years ago

Whilst it requires such a large sacrifice, Tricorder's action is very commendable and noble. Very well thought out I might add. :)

Thinking about it, the chances of a backup copy of the 40 year old database isnt really that far fetched. I would imagine that the scientists would have had thought of doing that somewhere along the line.




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#7 9 years ago

I would do what Tricorder said though before warping away I would unload all of the torps that I had(from a distance ofcourse since they are a distance weapon) on the the bigger Klingon ships. Atleast try to disable/destroy as many as I can.




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#8 8 years ago

why not use the downed ship to transport the people up and your ship to get the computer core? or use shuttle transporters to take some of the overflow?




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#9 8 years ago

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#10 8 years ago

In response to the origonal scenario:

I would presume that as this involves a Nova class, it takes place during the DS9/Voyager time period.

I would assume that as I am supposed to consider the vessels in question hostile, they are known hostiles (rogue ships)

I would further assume that it was an operation launched by rogue Klingon elements, as from what I recall Klingons of that era consider bio weapons unhonorable AND also consider any actions to deliberately harm a child (asside from collateral damage in a war when its unavoidable) as unhonorable in the extreme.

I would also assume that the mission takes place along the border with the Klingons, which means a high chance of a substantial Klingon border patrol ships (federation as well) being very close by.

I therefore would have the ship use whatever it can to make itself harder to detect, and slow down the hostile forces responding. I would also send a tight beam transmission to the nearest starbase advising them of my situation, and get them to alert the backup force to NOT come to my aid unless they can gett KDF forces to assist, or more Starfleet assets. I would also attach to the signal a text message, which I shall go into detail later.

As soon as Im sure my vessel is detected (IE: soon as they head straight for me) I break my attempt to remain hidden, and send a SOS signal to any ship in the area, giving full telementry of the rogue vessels, and explaining the basics of the situation, medical vessel crashed carrying ill children, being attacked, need assistance. This would no doubt get some response.

At this point, the starbase would respond to my message (and the attached text message from earlier) and send a fake list of ships responding, which would be JUST large enough to ensure that the Klingon force has no chance, and suggest that any vessels responding meet at coordinates enroute. The coordinates would be intended to allow forces to rally and have a chance to truly gain numbers enough to have a chance, but also give them a chance to get the hell out if not. And asssuming Klingons that dont care for honor, they would be more likley to say 'oh crap lets get out of here' at the thought of a decent sized Fed task force.

Now, as the damage to the crashed vessel do not state what degree of damage it has, I would assume transporters were still operating (or could be made to do so quickly) within a margin of error. I would have the computer data (which I would assume was on a physical storage medium, necessitating the need for transport) thrown into these. They're not living matter, so if they get scrambled no big deal.

While retrieving the data, I would have one of the landing party trigger a delayed containment failure in the ships antimatter supply. This would prevent the rogue Klingons from retreiving the data (and make a rather pretty explosion. :D ).

I would then have my transporters set to NOT re-materialize anyone, but to store their patterns in the buffer, this would save time allowing more time to beam up personel. My people would beam up last, and I would take off as soon as the rogue fleet is too close.

I would then go to maximum warp in a straight line for the nearest starbase, or real battlegroup, even if it is a Klingon one, as they would no doubt like to have a word with the rogues as well.

From there on, it comes mostly to a measure of pure speed.

And theres my response.

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Now I shall post a new scenario.

Setting: Post domionion war (within a few years).

You commad a Federation vessel on a exploration mission. Lets say its a Ambassador class.

Your location and the background:

Above the galactic plane, in unclaimed space, exploring what (when the map is viewed from above) would be the 'far' side of Klingon/Romulan space from the core of the Federation (plus on some of the maps Ive seen, in 3d the federation semi expands that way anyway).

During your mission, you receive increasing reports of tensions rising between the Federation and its erstwhile allies, especially the Klingons.

You also hear the Klingons had been engaged in a war of conquest against some unknown power on their far border, you also hear that they have been doing quite poorly. While nothing has been said, your breifings give the impression that they are for some reason angry at the federation due to the failed conquest.

The situation: You are entering a system, no inhabitable planets although one planet appears to have formerly been marginally inhabitable and the sight of a Klingon logistics base. The planet has been subject to planetry bombardment of antimatter torpedos and high power phaser strikes directed at fault lines in the crust. The result is mass surface damage (planets surface is basicly glass and dust now) as well as the surface being rendered unstable due to the high powerd phasers fracturing the crust. So basicly its a destroyed world whose crust has also been shatterd. In orbit, you are picking up the ruins of a klingon repair yard, supply depot and freighters, as well as many ships.

Once certain that noone is left alive, you continue scaning the system. As you come to the other side of the system, you pick up signs of a battle directly behind a large gas giant orbiting on the opposite side of the system.

As you approach, you see unknown vessels with unknown warp signatures slaughtering the Klingon fleet. Their ships fight, then break off and cloak if their sheilds are taking damage, with cloaked vessels often screening the disengaging vessels by decloaking and firing upon the perusing vessels.

Upon further scan, it seems that all of the unknown vessels, regardless of size, were designed on the same basic principle of the defiant (lets face it, galaxy class sized defiant would hurt).

A few of the unknown vessels make near passes on you and scan, but otherwise ignore you as you are not involved.

What do you do.




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