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Flash525

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#1 11 years ago

So... How strong do you guys and girls actually think this ship is? Bearing in mind, it was destroyed by a hand phaser :lol: nah, but seriously. I think a lot of people overestimate how powerful she is, yeah, she gave the Enterprise-E & two Norexan Warbirds a run for their money, but lets look at the facts. - When you compare the Norexan Warbirds to the Enterprise-E, you must bare in mind that Shinzon wasn't trying to destroy the Enterprise, he couldn't have given a toss about the Romulans. So yeah, he managed to take out two Romulan Warbirds (whilst cloaked). - When Worf & Deanna 'found' the Scimitar, the Enterprise managed to pull of a fair few moves, and did actually damage the ship. I've seen people say 'I'd like to see the Scimitar vs. a Cube' but to be honest, the Scimitar wouldn't last two minutes. Firstly there is no doubt that the Borg would have a way to detect cloaked ships. I don't care how 'good' the Scimitar Cloak is, the Borg have assimilated enough species to know how to bypass and detect any cloaking device. Sure, the Scimitar has a lot of weapons, but a Cube has more. And if we had the Scimitar fight with the Enterprise-E, and two Warbirds, all who could quite easily target and fire at the Scimitar, it wouldn't have lasted long. The only thing that the Scimitar had that made her 'that damned powerful' was firstly the cloak, and secondly, the ability to fire under it. Thats it. Conclusion: The Scimitar (whilst deadly) isn't half as deadly as people seem to make out. Facts have been presented to you, argue them if you must.




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#2 11 years ago

I think the Defiant still could have taken out the Scimitar. But it would have been the ship's hardest fight yet...It could easily lose the fight..Like the Valiant did.




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#3 11 years ago

Wow...I just randomly clicked on this thread...read your post...and have NO IDEA what you just said...haha

is this Star Trek?




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#4 11 years ago

Ahem, yes, it is Star Trek. Good Guess?




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#5 11 years ago

lol not that I should be telling this to a moderator but shouldnt this get moved to the Starbase 42 section of the entertainment forum?

By the way I like your sig...thats hilarious




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#6 11 years ago

Thank You for the Signature Comment, and yes, this should be in the Starbase 42 Section. I thought I had posted it in there, hmm, it would appear I thought wrong.




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#7 11 years ago

:moved: by request




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#8 11 years ago

The Scimitar is quite a unique ship compared to previous Star Trek ships. I think in many ways most of the percieved threat comes from it's outward appearance. The only real practical threat comes from the cloak, the level of shielding, and the weight of it's forward firing arcs.

The Scimitar pretty much needs the cloak and the heavy layers of shields because of its unique design. I'll try to quantify what I mean by unique design. The ship itself (meaning the hull) is actually smaller than the D'Deridex in terms of it's overall dimensions, though its volume is likely to be at least the same as the Galaxy class. However as we've heard from the dialogue, the Scimitar has an insane amount of weapons. This is where the ship's unique design comes in. Unlike Star Trek ships to date, the Scimitar's main weapons battery is no integrated into the hull like most Star Trek ships have been. Instead, the Scimitar has the bulk of its primary weapons batteries mounted seperate from the hull, hense the massive wings. In doing so, you free up a lot of room inside the actual hull for additional systems and cargo such as troops, fighters, and the thayleron weapon to name a few. While this allows the ship to carry a vast array of weapons compared to any ship of comparable size, it does come at a price. With the weapons all located on the wings, it means that the entire weapons array is more suseptible to being disabled because the control and power lines to all of the weapons are in relatively close proximity to each other. As a result, you kind of have an increased likelihood of damage to one part of the system causing the entire system to go down. So you compensate using the advanced cloak, and heavy shielding.

Not really a design that I'm personally comfortable with, but a very powerful one in the hands of a commander who is aware of the weaknesses and strengths.




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#9 11 years ago

I can not concur. The ships volume exceeds the D'Derridix class War Bird. This is a solid ship not mostly Wing.

The Scimitar has and over kill design. The Tripple shields..The cloak and the Two singularity cores to power the cloak with weapons active. The disruptors and tubes...It is a predator.

The vessel is also highly manuverable at great speed but sluggish. But there was no beam weapons to speak of which is a common Romulan design flaw.

How powerfull is the Scimitar? Literally it's twice as powerful as the Previous warbird. But it's up to 3 times the firepower.

Again Nothing Defiant couldn't handle...




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#10 11 years ago

Read what I said very carefully. I did not say that the Scimitar's volume is exceeded by the D'Deridex. I said that dimensions of the D'Deridex is greater than the dimensions of the Scimitar's HULL. The footprint of the Scimitar's HULL is roughly the same as the Sovereign class as a whole.

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