Two weapons that shulden't have been included in multiplayer mode -1 reply

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TheMaster

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#1 16 years ago

If you haven't already guessed the two weapons are the flame thrower and the panzerfaust. Now before I am blasted:cya: let me explain why. Both of these weapons require almost no sill to get mass kills with. any idiot who keeps dieing for what ever reason can use one of these weapons and kill players 100 times better than them with ease. These weapons are also very cheap as it is next to imposible to survive an atack with one of these weapons. I espicaly hate flamers, you know the guys who insist on running around with a flame thrower making it impossible for any one else to have fun. Its not fun when a sever inevitably decrades into half the ppl on both teams using flame throwers because some asshole started killing every thing insight with one. With half of the ppl on both teams using flame throwers the ppl that want to use real guns can't compeat. Another reason I think these weapons should not have been included in multiplayer is because it makes spawn killing very easy and so a panzer is usely the weapon of choice for a spawn killer. The most important reason I think these weapons shouldn't have been included in multiplayer is because ther is no map were they are nessasary to win and all they do is make ppl mad and keep them from having fun. It's no fun to keep being killed by the same jack ass with a flame thrower over and over agin with out even getting one kill because he always gets you before you are able to fight any other opponents. There is no deffense agenst these weapons if you hear the panzer your already dead, if you don't you probely won't even see it coming and the flame thrower starts you on fire so even in the rare event you get the flamer you die seconds after them becase ther is no way to put you self out. Weapons that just make ppl mad runin the whole point of online gaming wich is to have fun.




Dr. EViL

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#2 16 years ago
Originally posted by TheMaster If you haven't already guessed the two weapons are the flame thrower and the panzerfaust.

/me cracks knuckles and prepares for another one of these debates!

Now before I am blasted:cya: let me explain why. Both of these weapons require almost no sill to get mass kills with.

Erm...NO!

Both weapons require a considerable amount of skill to master compared to any other (besides the knife!:p)

any idiot who keeps dieing for what ever reason can use one of these weapons and kill players 100 times better than them with ease.

Erm...NO!

A noobie with a Flamethrower or Panzerfaust will get raped by anyone and is considered to be much more of a liablility to their own team than the other team.

These weapons are also very cheap as it is next to imposible to survive an atack with one of these weapons.

Erm...NO!

The Flamethrower is extremely short range. It is virtually useless outdoors unless you are on top of the opponent. On the flip side, the Panzerfaust is no good for close in work (unless you are experianced and know how much of a blast radius the rocket has...and know how to bank the shot off walls!). If you are indoors you have more chance of killing yourself, your team, and maybe one bad guy!

I espicaly hate flamers, you know the guys who insist on running around with a flame thrower making it impossible for any one else to have fun. Its not fun when a sever inevitably decrades into half the ppl on both teams using flame throwers because some asshole started killing every thing insight with one.

Erm...NO!

If some arsehole happened to be on my team and was killing every enemy in sight with a flamethrower, I'd switch to Lt and give that guy some ammo!!! A good Flamer is rare and should be treasured!!!

If that guy happened to be killing anything that moved, friendly or enemy I'd just wait until he had enough complaints against him and watch him get kicked!

With half of the ppl on both teams using flame throwers the ppl that want to use real guns can't compeat.

Erm...NO!

If half the enemy team was using flamers, I'd laugh my arse off and gun them down from a distance where I am quite safe from their flames!! :D

Another reason I think these weapons should not have been included in multiplayer is because it makes spawn killing very easy and so a panzer is usely the weapon of choice for a spawn killer.

Erm...Okay!

I've been spawn killed by everything from Thompsons to grenades to Airstrikes. Spawn killers have no preference. Yes some use the Panzerfaust but considering the warm up time (average of thirty seconds) if you don't get the entire team in one shot (rare), you might as well kiss your arse goodbye!

The most important reason I think these weapons shouldn't have been included in multiplayer is because ther is no map were they are nessasary to win and all they do is make ppl mad and keep them from having fun.

Erm...Oh my GOD NO!! The Panzerfaust (my weapon of choice) is the medics worse enemy. I personally love making sure that they cannot revive any of their teammates, thus giving my team a better chance of winning a map. An example...

1.Engineer about to plant, you shoot him down with a Thompson, don't see the Enemy medic behind you while you reload, you get killed, the medic revives the Engineer, Engineer sets dynamite, other team wins!! (I have seen this so many times it is ridiculous).

2.Engineer about to plant, you obliterate him into itty bitty pieces, don't see the enemy medic behind you, you get killed, the medic looks at the gibbed form of the engineer, shrugs his shoulders and buggers off!

It's no fun to keep being killed by the same jack ass with a flame thrower over and over agin with out even getting one kill because he always gets you before you are able to fight any other opponents.

Erm...LOL!

A flamer gets you once, that's bad luck. A flamer gets you twice, that's unfortunate. A flamer gets you three times, you're shite!

There is no deffense agenst these weapons if you hear the panzer your already dead, if you don't you probely won't even see it coming and the flame thrower starts you on fire so even in the rare event you get the flamer you die seconds after them becase ther is no way to put you self out.

Erm...Oh pleeease!

The Panzerfaust has a delay, one which can be capitalised on. I've been killed plenty of time by enemies before I can get a shot off and vice versa when I've gone up against PF with a Thompson. Three head shots is all it takes to put a soldier down, and every gun can fire three shots faster than the PF can fire one!

As for the flamer setting you on fire...that's life!

Weapons that just make ppl mad runin the whole point of online gaming wich is to have fun.

Erm...HeHe!!

In conclusion...

The Panzerfaust is great for breaking up large assaults, taking out those pesky snipers, obliterating engineers...and my favourite, making medics cry!! :D

The Flamethrower is great for blocking off choke points. On the Village map for instance, two flamers with Lt support can hold the cellar ladders almost indefinately forcing the Allies to go the long way round. On beach one flamer can stop the Allies using the ducts.

Both weapons have a place in the game. Both weapons can help your team win a game if used correctly.

:smokin:




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#3 16 years ago

Right on Doc!!! On the rare occasion I choose to be a soldier I pick the Panzer. More often than not it is out of necessity because of a defensive situation. Very good for clearing the way. I know how to use the weapon pretty well I would say. I know the timing and can fire from behind a wall and step out just in time for it to launch, leaving the enemy little or no time to realize. Many times I use it for the one shot I need and find a weapon someone dropped and get rid of the PF.

If you have the distance you can see them coming and sometimes get out of the way. And the flamers can always be heard with the constant whooshing of the pilot flame.

All the weapons have their place in the game, it's just the n00bs and lamers that make it seem the other way for some folks.

Join a different server if you don't like the one you're on....




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#4 16 years ago

Hi,

Right on guys, if you want to be a good player you have to learn how to fight against all weapons (not necessarily use them). many a time I have gunned down a lamerflamer and not even got singed cause of their range. One big disadvantge with flamer is that it's hard to see if you are even hitting the enemy, all he has to do is back away and shoot at source.

Panzer are really useful, but only if you hit what you are shooting at and have backup. If you miss you are dead meat (if I am there at least) without backup. The one thing I find panzers really useful for is stopping that last mad dash with docs on maps like beach etc.

:cya:




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#5 16 years ago

Play The game the way it was ment to be played!! I couldnt agree more with Dr. Evil and anyone else who agrees with him hehe

If the game wasnt ment to have a Flamethrower then why did the Allies in WWII use it agains the germans and so on....All these weapons where usedin WWII (excluding the venom but i never hear of anyone who complains about it That gun takes some skill to use)




FlederMaus!

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#6 16 years ago

Something to remember about these weapons:

1)Both sides have the option of using these. The tactical advantage is there for both teams. 2)What destroys the enemy well, can also destroy your own team equally well. A newbie on your team with a flamethrower can be worse than the enemy.

3)RTCW would be bland and boring without these weapons.

4)Flamethrowers are short range. Panzerfausts leave you with nothing but a pistol until another regenerates. How many times has someone with a panzer missed you, and you just took him out with your machine gun during his long vulnerability. (the skill of using a panzer is surviving when you don't have one)

Jeff




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#7 16 years ago

Both of these weapons require almost no sill to get mass kills with. any idiot who keeps dieing for what ever reason can use one of these weapons and kill players 100 times better than them with ease. These weapons are also very cheap as it is next to imposible to...blah blah blah..

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Honestly, I hear people complain about this ALL the time. Apparently people that use Panzers' and Flamers' are "gay", don't ask me how all these people know this, but they seem to know..possibly people have come into this ESP as of late, or better yet, they're just whiners. :fistpunch:

Let me explain how I deal with it. If you constantly get killed by Panzers' and Flamers' then YOU are the one with no skill. Take for example the War Room in Beach. When Axis have 10 guys in there defending, you will not get any Allies in that room with any gun you have nor a gernade. Flamer or Panzer will sure clean up quickly. It's irrating when that happens, but hey, they want to win just as bad as you.(Myself, I use a Thompson and sometimes Sten, I am not defending Panzer & Flamers' because I use them, I almost never do.) As stated earlier, shoot Flamers from far away, or if you're in a closed in area, take out a gernade and hold it on you..you're dead anyways, so might as well go out with a bang, right? I've cleaned up 2-3 people doing that a few times.

Panzers, sheesh...when I see someone with a Panzer I run right in their face and they end up killing me and themselves..doesn't hurt my score as much as it does theirs. I've seen people change guns quite quickly after a few times of that. People always conclude that Panzers' and Flamers have no skill..which is a narrow-minded view because they don't know how they are with a regular gun, they just don't like that fact that they keep getting wasted by these weapons. I'll admit, it's a major pain in the butt when you work your ass off to kill people and a Panzer or Flamer ends that streak quickly, but..oh well..




FlederMaus!

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#8 16 years ago

Honestly, I hear people complain about this ALL the time. Apparently people that use Panzers' and Flamers' are "gay", don't ask me how all these people know this, but they seem to know..possibly people have come into this ESP as of late, or better yet, they're just whiners. -----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think this is funny too. I keep looking for guys with panzers wearing ASCOTS and DOVE SHORTS running around. haha

(I guess calling them "gay" is their ultimate "insult".)

When I see people starting to complain, it means they are too busy typing and not paying attention to the game anymore.

Jeff




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#9 16 years ago

I think this is funny too. I keep looking for guys with panzers wearing ASCOTS and DOVE SHORTS running around. haha

(I guess calling them "gay" is their ultimate "insult".) ------------

I should start calling people "straight" & "hetro's" for using the machine guns. lol!




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#10 16 years ago

LOL, some Flamer running around in and ascot!! LOL, I guess someone using a sten is a man among men. I think I am going to make it a point to get real good with the PF and Flamer...

See ya on the fields and watch out for Me and My Flamer... I'll be the one in the ASCOT and DOVE SHORTS...!!