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#1 10 years ago

I have a question: wich is stronger: a quantum torpedo, or a warp core explosion? I think it would be a warp core because for example in ST7: generations, they moved away at impulse from the explosion and it still affected them alot even at quite a distance. As for torpedos, the first ones don't even make it through the shields. If the core is more powerful it should radically change tactics for ships that don't stand a chance versus a more powerful oponent for example a borg ship.




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#2 10 years ago

Warp Core explosion is much more powerfull. Single Quantum torpedo can`t destroy entire ship even if ship`s shields are down. Sure , it would cause alot of damage , but wouldn`t destroy the ship. Unless , ofcourse , it hits some tender spot , like the Warp Core , causing it to breach , thus destroying the entire ship. Maybe Federation ships should fire Warp Cores instead of torpedos. :lol:




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#3 10 years ago

That's what I think, there are a lot of situations where ships know they don't have any chance to live and still fight and die. And their cores are still destroyed, doesn't that affect the enemy ships? For example worf thinks of ramming the borg in first contact when maybe it's possible to just beam the core close to the cube and blow it. But then again, they probably thought about that maybe during fights both sides employ some kind of measures that prevents teleporting stuff in proximity, and not just inside theyr shields. Maybe jammers that prevent all transporter activity in range. I'm just wondering how strong is it. Would it affect a whole system?




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#4 10 years ago

Well , that depends on distance between the ships and shield strenght of the enemy ship , plus it`s current shield status. Ship`s size also counts because bigger ships have larger Warp Cores which means there is larger quantity of matter / antimatter in those Warp Cores. So , more matter / antimatter means bigger bang. Worf`s decision to ram the Borg ship was based on the fact that his ship was crippled and facing iminent destruction. I`m not sure how much damage he would inflict to the Borg Cube , but I doubt it would be much. Teleporting the Core would require some preparation. Warp Core is the most sensitive part of the ship and can`t be just "ripped out". There is always a possibility that the Transporter beam destabilizes the Core which may or may not resoult in an overload. Simply said , it would go BOOM at the wrong time. Not to mention that teleportation is impossible trough shields. Well , some races in Star Trek can do it , but our beloved Federation can`t. By system you mean Solar system? If so , then no. Even the largest ships don`t have Warp Cores that large that thier explosion could affect entire Solar system. At least I think so.




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#5 10 years ago

Jedi_Sabrina;4336913Warp Core is the most sensitive part of the ship and can`t be just "ripped out". There is always a possibility that the Transporter beam destabilizes the Core which may or may not resoult in an overload. Simply said , it would go BOOM at the wrong time.[/quote] Exactly.

A Warp Core Torpedo is an interesting strategy, that has no doubt been attempted. However, one must wonder at the possible effectiveness.

Most enemy vessels capable of doing serious harm to a Federation starship, have the capabilities to deflect, and/or intercept the warp core. Even so, they usually have the abilities to detect a Warp Core ejection, and evade it, or minimize the damage it would cause. Worse, given its "downward" ejection, it would be very difficult to target an enemy ship.

Also, once the core is removed from a ship, it has lost a significant source of its energy. Crippling the ship further. If the Warp Core torpedo fails, there are really no other options. A fresh starship would have a fighting chance, but a ship damaged badly enough to have to eject the core, would not likely have enough energy left in reserve to do anything else. With the core still in the ship, they can still inflict some kind of damage,... A Warp-Core would likely be a supercharged Anti-Matter Photon Torpedo. However, the Federation should have designed some kind of Warp Core weapon for use against the Borg. A Warp Core launching ship. Still, the practical applications of such a weapon against the Borg, are questionable. And costly,...

[QUOTE=Jedi_Sabrina;4336913]By system you mean Solar system? If so , then no. Even the largest ships don`t have Warp Cores that large that their explosion could affect entire Solar system. At least I think so.

No, but it can have a severe impact on a system with High Warp level traffic. A single core could cause a rift that could completely destabilize an entire region of space, preventing Warp travel entirely.

No doubt the Romulans are putting the finishing touches on such weapons. It would be the equivalent of WMDs for Star Trek. Warp travel is the backbone of the Federation, destroying their warp capacity... I can't even imagine what it would be like...

AS a single use, ship to ship weapon, a Warp Core is very impractical. However, as a WMD, to be used against an "Empire's" trade routes, or supply routes, it is an incredible weapon. The equivalent to a nuke.




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#6 10 years ago
Monster_user;4337055No, but it can have a severe impact on a system with High Warp level traffic. A single core could cause a rift that could completely destabilize an entire region of space, preventing Warp travel entirely.

I doubt that a single Warp Core could "screw up" entire Solar system. However , there is something that can affect entire Solar system and completely make Warp travel impossible by preventing creation of the stabile Warp field. Federation calls it "Omega Particle". You really don`t want be in the same Solar system with this baby when it goes BOOM. :lol:




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#7 10 years ago

I'm not sure how effective physically firing your warp core at an enemy would be. You'd probably have more success launching or beaming one of your antimatter storage pods at them. It's the matter/antimatter reaction that causes the bang, remember. The explosions are certainly more potent than a quantum torpedo though. Remember Generations, when the stardrive of the Enterprise was destroyed by a warp core breach, and it knocked the saucer section about so badly that it crashed? They were a fair distance away when it happened, and I've never seen a quantum torpedo even come close to that.

And don't forget Star Trek I either. As Mr. Scott said when asked whether their self-destruct would take out V'ger, he commented, "when that much matter and antimatter are brought together? Oh yes, we will indeed." And that was a pretty old starship by TNG standards, although we never actually saw it happen. I can't imagine any quantum torpedo that could take out something as massive as V'ger in one go.




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#8 10 years ago

The only problem with beaming are shields. Federation ships can`t beam anything without lowering their shields first and I highly doubt that any good Captain would give the order to lower shields while his / her ship is under fire. Shields on the enemy ship would also have to be down. Ofcourse , antimatter storage pod can be beamed outside close to the enemy ship , but with it`s shields up I doubt it would take much damage from the explosion.




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#9 10 years ago

Well, I was talking about last resort, any other course of action would be suicide, so it would be like last alternative. And you're right, mr matt, scotty said it would destroy v'ger and it was pretty big and probably shielded in some way. And when we think that in generations, the saucer was probably moving at high impulse, witch would take it pretty far even in just a few seconds. That all means it's pretty potent stuff, with quite a radius.