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So, we've already got a thread for the general discussion on this new movie that is scheduled for 2009. What I'd like to talk about here, are the inconsistencies that will play a huge part in this latest production. I'll start with the ship. I don't know what the official design of this pre-Constitution Class is yet, but one of the designs I have seen clearly has the Torpedo tubes much like they're displayed on the Constitution Refit. Should this be the case, the pre-Connie will have them lower-neck, the main-Connie will have them... nowhere, and then the post-Connie will have them back on the lower-neck again. Next, we've got good old Captain Kirk. The Captain of the Enterprise upon launch... WRONG! Captain Christopher Pike should be the one on the Enterprise, not Kirk. If my memory serves, Kirk was first on the Lexington, so why is he suddenly the Captain of a ship that is ready for launch? Does he get demoted, shoved onto the Lexington, and then takes back over later? Following that, we've got the bad guys. A Bald Romulan.. Yeah, because there is nothing wrong with that what so ever.. Oh, and lets not forget he has some weird tattoo (instead of the hair)? Wouldn't be so bad if it was a Romulan/Human - Reman Hybrid (would explain the lack of hair) but to have a Bald Romulan who wants to kill Kirk? Has fuckup written all over it. And last, but not least, we've got the basic storyline, of which involves Time Travel. Why, oh why did they need to create a film that is based on time travel. They've done enough episodes on this to completely screw things up, then they went and did Enterprise (show was ok, time travel storylines were annoying), and just to add icing on the cake, they decide to go back in time once again, and redo Kirk. Seriously, do these film producers not understand that the way forward is just that - FORWARD!!




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#2 10 years ago

a) i believe the design and look of the connie will be very different to how we've known it.. figures, the old style was unrealistic and basically plain white. i think this has kitted out just to suit the idea of a super sfx sci fi movie..

b) True. Pike took it out then Kirk took over. im sure this will be taken into account. otherwise abrams wont be a popular man.

c) true. we had the khan - kirk rivalry, but a romulan kirk rivalry is too much to add at the beginning of the storyline. otherwise he'd been mentioned in the series even if he dies in this film. introducing major new charachters into a prequal movie is also risky as it mucks up the timeline..

d) I guessed it'd be about time travel. and tbh... it a load of nonsence. if it happened now, why was it such a big deal in voyager or next generation..? im intreaged.




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#3 10 years ago
Transmission;4547459Following that, we've got the bad guys. A Bald Romulan.. Yeah, because there is nothing wrong with that what so ever.. Oh, and lets not forget he has some weird tattoo (instead of the hair)? Wouldn't be so bad if it was a Romulan/Human - Reman Hybrid (would explain the lack of hair) but to have a Bald Romulan who wants to kill Kirk? Has fuckup written all over it.

And I wonder if they are going to be stupid enough to make a direct conflict/contact between Kirk and the Romulans, concidering there was no visual contact between the 2 races until 'Balance of Power'...




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#4 10 years ago

another spot on point




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#5 10 years ago

Transmission;4547459So, we've already got a thread for the general discussion on this new movie that is scheduled for 2009. What I'd like to talk about here, are the inconsistencies that will play a huge part in this latest production. I'll start with the ship. I don't know what the official design of this pre-Constitution Class is yet, but one of the designs I have seen clearly has the Torpedo tubes much like they're displayed on the Constitution Refit.

Should this be the case, the pre-Connie will have them lower-neck, the main-Connie will have them... nowhere, and then the post-Connie will have them back on the lower-neck again.[/quote]

I think the torpedo tubes were on the saucer module, like the phasers were, if they had torpedoes.

Next, we've got good old Captain Kirk. The Captain of the Enterprise upon launch... WRONG! Captain Christopher Pike should be the one on the Enterprise, not Kirk. If my memory serves, Kirk was first on the Lexington, so why is he suddenly the Captain of a ship that is ready for launch? Does he get demoted, shoved onto the Lexington, and then takes back over later?
That would be annoying if Abrams misses that point....
Following that, we've got the bad guys. A Bald Romulan.. Yeah, because there is nothing wrong with that what so ever.. Oh, and lets not forget he has some weird tattoo (instead of the hair)? Wouldn't be so bad if it was a Romulan/Human - Reman Hybrid (would explain the lack of hair) but to have a Bald Romulan who wants to kill Kirk? Has up written all over it.

What's wrong with a bald Romulan? :uhm:

You don't think they struggle with hairloss too? ;) =p

And last, but not least, we've got the basic storyline, of which involves Time Travel. Why, oh why did they need to create a film that is based on time travel. They've done enough episodes on this to completely screw things up, then they went and did Enterprise (show was ok, time travel storylines were annoying), and just to add icing on the cake, they decide to go back in time once again, and redo Kirk.

While I'm looking forward to the movie, I agree that the time travel plot has been done to ....good grief. Its just another example of CASE.

Seriously, do these film producers not understand that the way forward is just that - FORWARD!!

So true....:lol:

[quote=Stargazor_001;4547570]And I wonder if they are going to be stupid enough to make a direct conflict/contact between Kirk and the Romulans, concidering there was no visual contact between the 2 races until 'Balance of Power'...

Not entirely true...there was a brief Romulan/Federation war shortly after the founding of the Federation, 21xx something I think(if memory serves)? So perhaps that's not too much of a stretch...




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#6 10 years ago
Laughing Cheese;4549434Not entirely true...there was a brief Romulan/Federation war shortly after the founding of the Federation, 21xx something I think(if memory serves)? So perhaps that's not too much of a stretch...

As mentioned in TOS "Balance of Terror".

The Romulans were not seen until either that time, or "The Enterprise Incident". I can't remember.

Another thing, according to my Star Trek encyclopedia, Captain Robert April* was captain of the NCC-1701 Enterprise for its first 5-year mission. After that was Captain Christopher Pike, Captain James T. Kirk, and briefly by Captain Willard Decker.

* Robert April was the name for the captain of the Enterprise for the original pitch to NBC, then Pike for the first episode, and finally Kirk.

Time Travel sucks. There was talk that this was going to be a reboot of the franchise, it doesn't sound promising.




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Monster_user;4549526As mentioned in TOS "Balance of Terror".

The Romulans were not seen until either that time, or "The Enterprise Incident". I can't remember.

Another thing, according to my Star Trek encyclopedia, Captain Robert April* was captain of the NCC-1701 Enterprise for its first 5-year mission. After that was Captain Christopher Pike, Captain James T. Kirk, and briefly by Captain Willard Decker.

* Robert April was the name for the captain of the Enterprise for the original pitch to NBC, then Pike for the first episode, and finally Kirk.

Time Travel sucks. There was talk that this was going to be a reboot of the franchise, it doesn't sound promising.

the captains are true. i read that in my big collection of inherited fact files.

also, time travel is too cliche in star trek. as if theres not enough to write about in the 23rd century..




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#8 10 years ago

If Star Trek isn't careful, it'll become known as 'that time travel show'.

Heck, who am I kidding, it already is.




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#9 10 years ago

Everyone is bring up a lot of concerns of the new movie that have been voiced thoroughly...

Rember though that Abrams is not in full control of the script. He was brought in as a director. The script was already made. The director in these cases is a hired gun. You like his style in movies and they way he gets it done but they are not often the creative geniuses behind the script on these big movie bashes that have been funded by the studio.

Star Trek made the script. They're the ones who should be blamed for the debacle if it fails. Look a Transformers...perfect example...That wasn't Abrams fault he just created the look.




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#10 10 years ago
acidfluxxbass;4547483c) true. we had the khan - kirk rivalry, but a romulan kirk rivalry is too much to add at the beginning of the storyline. otherwise he'd been mentioned in the series even if he dies in this film. introducing major new charachters into a prequal movie is also risky as it mucks up the timeline.
Stargazor_001;4547570And I wonder if they are going to be stupid enough to make a direct conflict/contact between Kirk and the Romulans, concidering there was no visual contact between the 2 races until 'Balance of Power'...[/quote][/quote]Hopefully they will have taken all this into account. The TOS episodes, the TNG episodes, the lot. I would also imagine this movie having something to do with, or leading up to the Earth-Romulan War. Does anyone know when this movie (what year) is based, and on top of that, does anyone know when the Earth-Romulan was was suppose to take place?
Laughing Cheese;4549434I think the torpedo tubes were on the saucer module, like the phasers were, if they had torpedoes.[/quote]One a design I've seen, the torpedo tubes are as displayed on the Refit. [quote=Laughing Cheese;4549434]What's wrong with a bald Romulan? You don't think they struggle with hairloss too?
I had enough of an issue with a Blonde Romulan (Sela). A bald one too? Bah!! When was the last time you saw a bald Cardassian, or a bald Klingon? [quote=Monster_user;4549526]Another thing, according to my Star Trek encyclopedia, Captain Robert April* was captain of the NCC-1701 Enterprise for its first 5-year mission. After that was Captain Christopher Pike, Captain James T. Kirk, and briefly by Captain Willard Decker.
This being the case (which it is), they'd need to take both April and Pike into account. Something tells me this will be a Kirk only show though. [quote=Dursk;4551072]Look a Transformers...perfect example...That wasn't Abrams fault he just created the look.

What are you on about? Transformers was awesome =p ... you do make a good point though. People shouldn't blame the directors. A lot of people think they're the ones who create the storyline etc.