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#1 14 years ago

Its been a while since ive played SFC3 but I thought of something... if SFC3 is based on the adding of systems and management of weight, shouldnt the galaxy be the most powerful federation ship? in the manual it says the Galaxy is a "dreadnaught" which is actually better than a battleship... but they call the sovereign the battleship. Anyway the galaxy has over 1,000,000 more tonnes of displacement than the sovereign so it should be able to hold WAY more systems. Theoretically making it the most powerful federation ship in SFC3 :nodding: I do like Galaxies much better than Sovereigns and I think they were brushed aside way too quickly, and very illogically at that I mean they have soo much more space. :uhm:




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#2 14 years ago

The difference is most of the space in the Galaxies are used for scientific reasons. They are filled with labs and such. The Sovereigns are just combat orientated. You also said that dreadnaughts were better than battleships, I don't know if you meant it in that the Galaxies are superior to the Sovereigns or in the actual definition of the words, but battleships are more powerful than dreadnaughts. Dreadnaughts are basically obsolete battleships. Since the Galaxy is an exeptional ship, I think it should be classified as a battlecruiser or something of that nature because it isn't obsolete, but then again it's a ship of peace, not war. The same can't be said of the Sovereigns.




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#3 14 years ago

true but most of the galaxies space is civllian, but the galaxy still has way more room inside than a sovereign. At least it should be able to support more systems because it can hold a bigger warp core.




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#4 14 years ago

its the below the soverign part i dont like, any ship so grand that you only make 12 should be the best damn ship you have (otherwise you'd be making a very big economical blunder) there are only 2 sovs *officially* in starfleet but they are slated for mass production.




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#5 14 years ago

Take into consideration that the newest technology is put into the newest class of ships, and the Sovereign class does have science labs and recreational facilities. Unlike the Galaxy class, it wasn't designed to support families and civilian personnel. You are correct that a Galaxy has more internal volume than a Sovereign, and therefore could hold more systems than the Sovereign, but also take into account that by the time the Sovereigns were being constructed, the Galaxies had already been in service for 8-10 years, and to incorporate all the newest technology into the entire fleet of Galaxy-class starships would not only cost alot financially, but it would conceivably take the same amount of time to refit one Galaxy as it would to build 2 Sovereigns, because modifications would need to be made to virtually every system on the ship. It is possible to do it though. Remember when they refitted Kirk's Enterprise, giving it all new technology? It took 18 months just to do that to one ship. Granted they also did a complete redesign of the ship and also increased it's overall size a bit, so it took a long time to do, but also remember it was the first ship of the class to get the refit, and they needed to make sure that the new systems would fit properly into the ship, and then test them out to make sure they worked properly. I know this is getting a bit long, but one last point. All ships, during their service lives, do undergo routine refits, ranging from minor to major refits, and these refits take place every few years, or in some cases, every decade or every other decade, to ensure that the ships can continue their assigned duties. Hope no one minds my 2 cents.




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#6 14 years ago

it's their purposes.

The Galaxy is a Science & Exploration ship, designed to take the families of crew members with them on voyages. Also, alot of that space and mass would be taken up with its costly seperation system.

The Sovereign on the other hand, is the cutting edge in battle-ready ships. It carries no civillian crewmembers, and doesn't employ the large seperation system, meaning its size can be reduced. Also, the technology used is cutting edge. We can assume some consoles and suchlike could be either miniaturised, or incorporated into another system entirely. Built mainly for battle purposes, and not research and science, it would probably lack some of the more refined labs, and be given smaller astrometrics labs and suchforth. This allows the designers to cut down on the size and shape of the ship, and allows them to make it more streamlined. However, There are only 24 decks to this ship, so how A - the borg in first contact controlled up to deck 26 AND B - there was an intruder alert on deck 29 in Nemesis are a mystery even I can't complain... I mean "Intruder alert on deck 29" No worries then, they're in deep space... we only have 24 decks!




Daihak

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#7 14 years ago

As you said, the technology is cutting edge and could therefore be miniaturized to save space, and yet be more efficient than older versions of those systems. This would also hold true for sensor and scientific systems and labs, so you wouldn't need such a big lab on a Sovereign to do the same research, if not more, than you would need on a Galaxy.




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#8 14 years ago

Well I see it this way. A dreadnaught is the most powerful class of ship, far to expensive to produce in quantity, they must be able to make up for lack of numbers with quality. A dreadnaught is the ship you call in for your most important missions and fights that you just cant afford to lose, the ship you call in to hold off the entire enemy fleet untill help arrives. Now This is the Galaxys role. Note that it all Galaxies have a type 13 planetary defence emmiter, a damn big gun. Doesn't that say dreadnaught to you? if not maybe the over 1,000,000 tonnes more displacement will? Only 12 Galaxies were ever built, They were ment to operate completely without federation support for 5 years. However the Soverign is just not capable of sustaining itself without federation help for that long. A galaxy is built to keep its own, in exploreation and battle. Now the galaxy is also more exploration oriented. So this makes the Galaxy the best explorer, Now would you not want to put the latest technology and systems on a ship you are sending into unknown space for 5 years? Yes you would. Also the Galaxy has a 13 deck tall warp core, whereas the soverign's is about 10. This means it can be fitted with a larger core = more raw power to power systems = better systems and better ship. Seems logical to me.




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#9 14 years ago

As I had said earlier, the Sovereigns are equipped with the latest technology, which means you don't need as much space to get the same efficiency, and Dreadnaughts are some of the most powerful of ships, but Battleships are those that you really send into big time fights, cause of the sheer power in weapons that they possess. And whoever said the Sovereigns weren't designed for exploratory use? Virtually all starships are designed to operate independently for about 5 years, including the Sovereigns. Because of their cutting edge technology, they have the same capabilities, and more, than the Galaxy class, and yes, the Galaxy class does have more internal volume, as I had said before, it would be too costly and time consuming to refit all Galaxy class ships with the same level of technology that the Sovereigns have. And where did you get the type 13 weapon as part of the Galaxy's standard equipment?




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#10 14 years ago

I have a large cut away poster of the Galaxy class, showing all the interior and labeling the systems. It says it has a type 13 planetary defence emmiter, although I cant determine where, possibly the middle underside of the saucer were the phasers were during the first couple of episodes, before they went to phaser strips. Where the captains yacht now is. Also the Soverign just cant hold enough supplies to hold its own for a full five years. A Galaxy is crammed with cargo space and self sustainability systems like huge backup systems and 3 computer cores. A sov is made for a five year TOUR OF DUTY in or close to fed space.