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#31 10 years ago

A mapping contest should be either small, and be jk3members only, or it should be huge and cover all the major forums and places.

In my opinion it should be a duel map, as you can add very much detail and it wouldnt take ages to create it. After all, people are picky and cant map 24/7.

It would be beneficial to maintain a theme for the contest, as you can adjust yourself to judging the map that you are playing, and to keep the gameplay and visuals kind of the same.

If we aren't that many that would enter it, and if it was more experienced level designers, a deal about not using base textures would be both good and bad. Since you can only custom textures, you could be amazed by the areas, but still it would add a sense of "Lets see who can create the best textures" feel to it.

About judging the levels, this is an important matter aswell. An experienced team that are knowledgeable of how to create high detailed maps is crucial. If a certain player looks at a wall with an advanced shader thats custom created he might just think "Cool" and walk by the place, he wouldnt realise how hard it was to make it with different texture layers and whatnot..

You would need judges who are advanced in the knowledge of scripting, shaders, textures, levels and effects. Persons who actually wonder how someone did an object such as a moving crane that moves boxes.

For instance, let me be selfish and take an example from my very own old WIP:s

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If a person who was new to this sort of thing would just walk past that skybox and play as usual, while an experienced mapper would look at this kind of waterblend. (Thanks to Szico VII for it), and be kind of amazed that a waterblend like this would be possible.

Now, I didnt come here to get feedback on that picture, and I know alot of things look wrong, but its a perfect example to show how some people would react and some wouldnt.

Now for my own personal ideas, a some sort of surrealistic, interactive map with tons of colors and glowing textures. For example, take Jumpspace by Norman for example.. tons of colors, its interactive, its got cool effects and also a very simple yet beautiful brushwork.

I am not saying that every single contest entry would be a jumpspace map, but a really surrealistic level which contains interactive objects and effects, so that it gives a feeling of a living map.

The more highlights that makes an map enjoyable the better. The more amazing unique stuff the better. This is only my ideas and thats how I want this contest to be.. feel free to correct me or criticize my thoughts.




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#32 10 years ago

"In my opinion it should be a duel map, as you can add very much detail and it wouldnt take ages to create it. After all, people are picky and cant map 24/7"

I think your going to like a certain map by the Map-Craft the community that shall be released nigh-nearly! :D

Anyway, I totally agree that it should be a duel map, and also should be reviewed by professionals (probably from modding teams of JKG, MB2, and FF staff) although I'm not so sure about the base textures thing. The thing that we assume with base textures is a map of poor quality which in many cases is true. :( If persay a map is created where the author lacks detail and attention to variation, it is very easy for them to just slap on a texture that works rather than create something to fit perfectly. More detailed mappers may find themselves required to make said textures simply because of the way there map is built and such.

Also, I think it is perfectly reasonable to use base textures in small amounts at least, in ANY map, if they fit. Secondly, a shader applied to them is also good. (basic variance shaders are easily done by simply duplicating the image stage, applying spec mapping to the second, and darkening the first.. creates illusion of light burn in the retina)

Lastly, I think the comp should be seperated perhaps into 2 or 3 segments. Beginner, Mid-skill, and Experiences. The author can then choose how to submit his map based on his own skill, rather than giving up or not participating at all simply because they know other people would be better.




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#33 10 years ago
Pande;4925061 The author can then choose how to submit his map based on his own skill, rather than giving up or not participating at all simply because they know other people would be better.

It doesn't sound like people are planning on not submitting their work due to this, but I kinda like the idea of the three "skill levels" approach.




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#34 10 years ago

Of course there will be skill levels.

Took me a while, but I found it: Jedi Knight Files - JKFiles Mapping Contest Guidelines




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#35 10 years ago

Im Intermediate :D... But yeah still crossing my fingers for such a contest




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#36 10 years ago

Nice find! Ok, so date/time/place please. :D Jks, take your time.




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#37 10 years ago

Before things starts to settle a jury is required. The jury can then subsequently decide the theme, time and get things started. If jury members can both be in the contest and judge I would participate in both if that is an available matter.




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#38 10 years ago

....you folks are really making this whole thing more complex than it needs to be.


I don't know how, and I don't know why, but this is totally Sheep's fault.



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#39 10 years ago
Mikouen;4925923....you folks are really making this whole thing more complex than it needs to be.

No kidding.

Juries ruin creative potential. As the saying goes, too many cooks spoil the broth. Throw aside the politics, let's be a modding family (or at least closely knit neighbors). :)

Honestly, let's just keep it simple, and put one trusted person (In this case, Nozyspy) in charge. A jury is only needed to choose a winner.




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#40 10 years ago

And that's usually done by public voting, so even then a jury is irrelevant.

Is not like we're putting MC Hammer on trial here, although that might actually be equally fun. Turns out you can touch this - with a SWAT team and a federal warrant. :don:


I don't know how, and I don't know why, but this is totally Sheep's fault.