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Raz0r

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#21 8 years ago

I've believe renaming it to quake3 will (drastically) limit the available OpenGL extensions used to speed up and improve rendering, so if you notice any performance hits, it may be from that.




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#22 8 years ago

the ATI page doesnt show any "previous links" option help me please, i really want to play jk jedi academy all i want is to cut some people in half with a lightsaber im thinking of just buying windows pro so i can run xp when i want




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#23 8 years ago

cant find any "previous drivers" links on the ATI site help




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#24 8 years ago

You have to enter your computer informations to appropriate fields and click Display Results button. That will take you to the newest available driver version. To access driver archive and look for older versions, look under Helpful Links → Previous Drivers and Software, or something like that.

However, at the moment, for some reason, when I try to access their archive, I get this:

[SIZE="5"]Oops![/SIZE]

We apologize. The page you are trying to reach cannot be found. This may have happened for a few reasons:

  • The page has been moved
  • The page has been deleted
  • There was a typo or error in the link you clicked
  • There was a typo or error in a URL typed into the browser

To find what you're looking for, use the search box below or the most popular pages on our website to guide you in the right direction.

That has never happened before. :wiener:

Have you tried renaming executable files to quake3.exe, as I suggested in one of my previous posts here?

[EDIT]I've just tried accessing their archive again. It's working fine.[/EDIT]




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#25 8 years ago
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#26 8 years ago

Interesting. It says there that you tested it on Windows XP and Windows 7. What about Vista? I assume it works there too, but someone is bound to ask that question sooner or later, so I'll just save everyone the trouble.

So, Dexter, what does *this* button doooooooooo? =p

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#27 8 years ago

would you mind remote controlling my laptop and doing the changes yourself? I cant do it, im not savvy enough.




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#28 8 years ago

Do you know The Rules? No? Let me teach you:

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Rule #1: Kill them before they kill you. Wait, scratch that one. =p

Rule #2: Never let a random stranger on the Internet remotely control your computer. ;) Not everyone's intentions are good. Someone might slip you a virus or something equally malicious or steal your private informations, like various passwords, bank account numbers, etc. In short, don't do it unless you absolutely 100% trust a person you're giving a control over your computer to.

Now that we got that out of the way, I will once again suggest you to simply rename the executable files (jasp.exe and jamp.exe) which are located at C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy\GameData folder (assuming you didn't change the default installation path) to quake3.exe, as I suggested in one of my previous posts here. Renaming the files is very simple and doesn't require you to be particularly savvy. So, give it a try. It's been proven successful.

Now for more rules. =p

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Rule #17: Always make sure they're dead.

Rule #23: Never pull a sentry duty on an empty stomach.

Rule #39: Never say no to Bacta.

Rule #45: Any crash you can walk away from, is a good one.

Rule #89: One is an anomaly, two is a trend.

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All hail Scorch! =p

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#29 8 years ago

I've tried all the suggested methods and they have all failed, though results slightly varied. - patched game: SP - instant crash, windows "encountered error" message; MP - won't go past the splash screen, returns to desktop after a few seconds, no messages, no console - the *.bat method - no splash screen, windows message in both cases, no console - renaming *.exe - instant windows message, no console - opengl32.dll - crashing back to desktop, windows message in both cases, no console

Catalyst version: 10.10 GPU: HD4670 OS: Windows XP (sp 3 I think)

I'll post the rest of my specs if you find it necessary.

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Okay, so, turns out I had the atioglxx.dll in my gamedata all the time, though removing it makes only one of the above methods work (and by itself it doesn't solve the problem too) - the quake3 one. However, as an X-Fire user, I don't find this solution satisfying and some of the visual settings are messed up - shadow quality is always not there and the anisotropic filtering bar is unnamed and cannot be adjusted. Also, some visual effects cause FPS drops - they're custom but that still shouldn't be a problem with my hardware.

@down In short, you contributed nothing. Yes, I don't find a solution that requires changing the *.exe name satisfying because there are other ones that (according to some users) work and I bet there's a way to make one of those work for me too.

--------------------------- edit: Replacing my 100% okay and working video card to make one game work is hardly good advice. I don't know what you're so butthurt about, but take it easy.

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But hey, if you prefer to sit back and wait for some magical solution to drop in your lap, it's your right.

Okay, so, I'm not an IT expert or an enthusiast of any sort - if I discovered something potentially helpful I'd post it here. I figured that posting the results I got with each method is the least I can do. I see your point and I am satisfied with the results, I only wanted to see if anyone else has some ideas that would help me utilize any of those other methods. By the way, you should become a comic book writer, if you know what I mean. ;0




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#30 8 years ago

DrunkenMalkavian;5433961However, as an X-Fire user, I don't find this solution satisfying...[/QUOTE] No offense, but maybe you should just be happy the game works at all. You know, take what you got and be happy with it instead of complaining and asking for more. I mean, do you really have to run the game with Xfire? Can't you just use executable files to run it?

Let's face it - problems with this game are only going to get worse as the time progresses. Obviously, ATI doesn't give a flying frak about old games. If they did, they would make sure to adjust their drivers accordingly to include proper support for the id Tech 3 engine (also known as the Quake 3 engine) based games.

So, unless someone magically provides a universal solution that is guaranteed to work for all ATI users, dumping ATI and switching to NVIDIA might be the only solution for the people who still want to play this game, but can't get it to work on their ATI graphic cards. And I'm not saying that just because I'm a NVIDIA fan. [COLOR="Dimgrey"]Sev: "Yes you are".[/COLOR] =p

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DrunkenMalkavian;5433961@down In short, you contributed nothing.[/QUOTE] Your definition of "contribution" obviously differs from mine. Considering the fact NVIDIA users don't have this problem, my suggestion that ATI users who can't get this game to work switch to NVIDIA is actually a valid suggestion which you may or may not take. However, someone else might take it. People have this thing called the "free will", you know? ;)

DrunkenMalkavian;5433961Yes, I don't find a solution that requires changing the *.exe name satisfying because there are other ones that (according to some users) work and I bet there's a way to make one of those work for me too.[/QUOTE] Just because those alleged solutions you're talking about work for other people, doesn't automatically mean they'll work for you too. They might and they might not. Besides, if you know of some other possible solution for the problem at hand, why don't you contribute by posting it here? Who knows, someone might find your suggestion helpful.[/EDIT]

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DrunkenMalkavian;5433961edit: Replacing my 100% okay and working video card to make one game work is hardly good advice.

That's your opinion. If everything else fails and you (or someone else) desperately want to play this game, what else is there to do except switching to NVIDIA? It's either that or not playing the game at all, or (in your case here) playing it with some graphic problems, some of which aren't very important and / or can be bypassed. I mean, do you really need shadows? Anisotropic filtering can be adjusted (forced) from the ATI drivers control panel, no? As for the FPS drops, perhaps disabling Dynamic Glow would help, if it's enabled. ATI graphic cards / drivers and JA's Dynamic Glow never liked each other very much anyway.

But hey, if you prefer to sit back and wait for some magical solution to drop in your lap, it's your right. Considering the fact I'm a NVIDIA user, this problem doesn't concern me at all, but I'm here anyway, spending my time and money (electricity and Internet access aren't free), offering suggestions to people, trying to help them get the game running again while asking for nothing in return. Can you say the same? [QUOTE=DrunkenMalkavian;5433961]I don't know what you're so butthurt about, but take it easy.

If you don't like my advices, feel free to ignore them instead of taking jabs at me. It's that simple. This thread is meant to help other people too, not just you.[/EDIT]

[EDIT][QUOTE=DrunkenMalkavian;5433961]I see your point and I am satisfied with the results, I only wanted to see if anyone else has some ideas that would help me utilize any of those other methods.

Good luck with that. :) [QUOTE=DrunkenMalkavian;5433961]By the way, you should become a comic book writer, if you know what I mean. ;0

Why thank you. :don: I aim to please. ;)[/EDIT]